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Old 05-09-2008, 09:10 PM
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I just read THE UCC CONNECTION

iI filed my UCC-1 in Nevada and timely filed a continuance; also filed in California (2nd home--rented-out).

Several weeks ago, I was teleconning with an old highschool buddy; then he died in surgery. He worked for IRS; I told him about my UCC-1. He said it wasn't legal anymore? then I got two IRS letters claiming I hadn't filed in 2003; which is a fact because I already had filed my original UCC_1 and UCC-3.

When I did file the last time, 2001? I got money back 'cause I'm retired in Nevada, and don't make much. Now IRS is claiming (from Austin) that I owe them taxes and penalties for 2003.

In my 1st response, I included a stamped copyof my UCC-1&3 ; plus my Common Law copyright of my ALL-CAPS NAME. They did not acknowledge receipt of that letter, but they signed for it? thanks for your excellent 19 page article. I have Cracking The Code 3rd Edition. I'm totally disabled--physically.

Thanks for your work and thanks for making it available.

DeWayne C. Davi: I just ordered your book , but you didn't take my Master Card #??? RSVP
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Old 05-10-2008, 12:41 PM
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So you created your name and no one else can use it?

Thaat is quite simply the stupidest notion of the day.

No, this is quite simply the stupidest notion of the day:

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Old 05-10-2008, 12:54 PM
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in case you missed it

you CAN NOT kill what you DID NOT create
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Old 05-10-2008, 04:37 PM
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Maybe you should understand that the one primary purpose of a name it so that OTHERS may address you.

THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!

Just in case you missed it...

THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!
THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!

Do I detect a broad all-inclusive statement, forwarded as definitive indisputable absolute FACT?

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"NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO" "NO"


Trademark, Trade Name

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A trademark is a type of intellectual property, and typically a name, word, phrase, logo, symbol, design, image, or a combination of these elements.

Restatement (Third) of Unfair Competition § 9 (1995)
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Maybe you should understand that the one primary purpose of a name it so that OTHERS may address you.

THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!



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We recognized long ago that trademarks are a form of common-law property right.

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF IOWA
No. 48 / 97-771
Filed March 24, 1999
COMMERCIAL SAVINGS BANK,
Appellant,
vs.
HAWKEYE FEDERAL SAVINGS BANK,
Defendant,
and
COMMERCIAL FEDERAL BANK
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A trademark is a type of intellectual property, and typically a name, word, phrase, logo, symbol, design, image, or a combination of these elements.

Restatement (Third) of Unfair Competition § 9 (1995)
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Maybe you should understand that the one primary purpose of a name it so that OTHERS may address you.

THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!


INTRODUCING THE UNITED STATES RIGHT OF PUBLICITY
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Old 05-10-2008, 04:54 PM
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You cannot copy right a name because THERE ARE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS IN A NAME!



FORD, HEWLETT PACKARD, JOHNSON & JOHNSON, FERRARI, SARA LEE, BETTY CROCKER, SWANSONS, DREYERS, etc. Need I go on?
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Old 05-10-2008, 04:58 PM
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you CAN NOT kill what you DID NOT create

So then create it and own the rights to it!
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Old 05-11-2008, 03:29 AM
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It has to be understood FULLY. A personal name cannot be trademarked or be a trade name. To do so would create absurd results.

If my name was John Smith, and I claim ownership by trademarking my name as a tradename (which is what trademarking is) then that's like saying all the other John Smiths can no longer use their names.

No if I do something that "distinguishes" my name from every other "John Smith" NOW I've got a claim. You can trade mark your signature easy. But, not your ALL CAPS or First Initial Caps name. Unless you add something unique to it. Like Prince when he changed his.
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Yes, you can trademark any name you desire. If the name is already trademarked then one may have to battle it out in court. (Or have the case dismissed. wink wink)

You may trademark your friends name too and when the corporate defacto State uses your friend's name unjustly, you have a right to tell them to Cease and Desist, file a claim, etc.
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:07 PM
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Yes, you can trademark any name you desire. If the name is already trademarked then one may have to battle it out in court.

You would get NO traction, in court or anywhere else with that. A "personal name" WITHOUT distinguishing feature(s) CANNOT be trademarked. If that were fact, and my name was John Smith, and I trademarked it, EVERY John Smith would be in violation of using my name whenever they received monetary compensation.

That's nonsensical. A signature name yes, and as I've stated previously, if there is a "distinguishing" feature(s) about the name, then it could, otherwise, you'd never have any remedy in law, or at law, private, or public to enforce it.
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You would get NO traction, in court or anywhere else with that. A "personal name" WITHOUT distinguishing feature(s) CANNOT be trademarked. If that were fact, and my name was John Smith, and I trademarked it, EVERY John Smith would be in violation of using my name whenever they received monetary compensation.

I understand what you mean by distiguishing features.
Trademarks are exaclty that, a "mark".

So the Ford Corporation would get no traction in court if one began to commercially use their name? And to make it like a personal name; Edsel Ford.

I disagree.
One would have to prove their claim but I see a case having potential.

No, every John Smith would not be in violation. That is not how it works. The John Smith with the trademark would first have to decide to file a claim and a court would have to rule before a violation could occur.
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