Off Grid Living

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by bogeyman

Gas, Diesel and Bio Diesels are also options- but are limited life if fuel becomes scarce. Also fuel will go stale after time- gas in particular.

Germicides are important for biodiesel and can be important to prolonged shelf-life.

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by test

I think you would hook it up in the same connections points where the cables from the grid come into your house, the main entry to your home where the breakers are that would provide the power in all the outlets and switches just like the normal grid would do.

My friend's neighbor's power went out, so he told me that he ran a line from his breaker to his buddie's house.

I am a renter(probably always will be). In order not to draw attention of the landlord, is it possible to charge the batteries up in the backyard while everyone's at work and, once charged, then hook it up?

Also, Could you cycle 2 sets of batteries in a remote location?
As one set goes out, switch out w/the freshies?

Could that then be used by apartment dwellers?

They could hook up the charged batteries to the inverter to the Box in their apartment maybe?

Weis,

Didn't realize there was a thread here for renewable energy sources here on SJ.

I have found that http://www.hydrogenappliances.com has a wealth of useful information as we have discussed elsewhere. One of the things they mention is small afforadable wind turbines. People who have some land to spare and go off grid put up an array of solar panels and 1 windmill as a alternate source, then complain that the windmill doesn't produce as much power. Well Duh. The problem with windturbines has been that they are large noisy and expensive. These folks either sell or manufacture small turbines so you can put up several.

I also like their recipe and products for black or green biodiesel. It is so easy an idiot like me can do it, and it prevents the usage of lye methanol, and other caustic chemicals which if spilled onto the ground can create a serious biohazard. http://www.hydrogenappliances.com/bioD.html

I know this may not be of much assistance to renters, and even more so to apartment dwellers, but there are trade offs when making the decision to rent or buy.

Enjoy.

I'm looking into the Free Energy subject and will buy plans and build a few of these when I'm back on me feet financially (CORRECTION: I should say; "when I have forgiven the debts of my STRAWMAN", no?). Meanwhile, if anyone wants to pursue this subject, have at it.

http://www.futurehorizons.net/free.htm

Check out the Ambient Power Module as a potential replacement for the batteries in bogeymans system above. If it actually works you can skip the Solar Cell/Wind turbine and just use the APM and inverter and voila, FREE ENERGY forever?!!

The little itsy bitsy problem is that they produce only 9 Watts at 36 Volts, so you'd need about 1,000 of these to power an average size house at any given time, maybe more.

The Patterson type cell (Cold Fusion cell) produces steam and hydrogen to power a turbine or heat your hot water.

If you live on a private lake, the Temperature Wheel may be a nice decorative high torque power supply.

More to come
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PS. I have no idea of the life time on these suckers, there's no moving parts, I think so it should be fairly long.

Here is the additional information you requested regarding our Ambient Power
Module. I hope it helps to answer your questions.

Ambient Power Module

Invented by Joe Tate U.S. Patent # 4,628,299, the circuit converts RF (radio
frequency) energy to usable electric power. This design has been used to power
clocks, radios, and smoke detectors indefinitely. The device can provide 36 volts
at 9 watts. This device does away with the need for batteries by extracting
energy from surrounding radio waves.

The unit also acts as a passive detector of large metal objects, and it gives
early warning of seismic activity by the rise and fall of it's energy levels.

The power produced seems to improve near bridges, ships and anything containing a
great deal of metal. A high antenna wire seems to improve output although a 7-ft
whip antenna does provide an output also.

By constructing multiple units and connecting their outputs together, you could
produce enough energy to power a household. This configuration would require the
use of multiple antennas to provide input to the circuits.

Remember that our plans (which are included with the assembled Power Module)
contain a lot more detailed information about this item.

Thanks,
http://www.futurehorizons.net

Ok, this may sound less strange than the free energy post. Unless there's already a thread on Free Energy, maybe I should start one. There seems to be tons of info on this subject.

Anyway, this guy built a fit-in-any-car reactor that separates the O and H2 in water and uses it to improve the car milage about 20% on average.
Also, it seems to reduce carbon residue and emissions by almost 2/3rds.

Supposedly it installs in about 1-2 hours DIY or by a car mechanic in 1/2 to 1 hour. This seems to be the original inventor and he's keeping the price at a very reasonable level, so that you will make your money back very quickly.

http://www.savefuel.ca/

[weasel]

or, you could go the whole way and run your car on all water. i have yet to see it demonstrated though. or debunked, for that matter.

Weishaupt and weasel and everyone interested in self sustaining, off the grid, blackout and whatnot, suggest check out this page.

Re: Parabolic solar reflectors, there's a much easier and cheaper way (also on this page). Get a fresnel lens (rip it off an old OH projector or buy of the page for $4.95).
This baby can be used to create a 3000F hotspot which will melt a lot of metal (become your own blacksmith), melt your average asphalt pavement and of course ignite wooden material. Don't point towards anyone's bodyparts... ;)
With the right setup, which I think he discusses in the book, you could make your own steam generator to drive a turbine.

NOTE: If you're buying the books, make sure to get the 2 for 1 deal.

http://knowledgepublications.com/index.htm

Cheers
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[suijuris]

Guys, thank you all who have contributed to this thread.

This thread has inspired me to create an 'Living & Survival' forum as I believe the subject deserves its own forum.

Enjoy!

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by suijuris

Guys, thank you all who have contributed to this thread.

This thread has inspired me to create an 'Living & Survival' forum as I believe the subject deserves its own forum.

Enjoy!

This will be very helpful to several people that I know.

Everyone, thanks, and keep the ideas flowing.

[test]

Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

My friend's neighbor's power went out, so he told me that he ran a line from his breaker to his buddie's house.

I am a renter(probably always will be). In order not to draw attention of the landlord, is it possible to charge the batteries up in the backyard while everyone's at work and, once charged, then hook it up?

Also, Could you cycle 2 sets of batteries in a remote location?
As one set goes out, switch out w/the freshies?

Could that then be used by apartment dwellers?

They could hook up the charged batteries to the inverter to the Box in their apartment maybe?

While anything might be possible there will always be practical inconvenients.

To power a full house you probably will need lots and lots of batteries (a "bank" of batteries [no pun intended]).

Also the batteries may not be exactly as a car battery but they are very similar so they are a bit bulky and heavy.

To replace them you would probably had to cut all power to and from that set of batteries for your safety and that perhaps would cut all the power to the house every time you had to replace the batteries. Unless you have like two sets of the batteries bank and you can switch to the "active" bank while you work on the "spare" bank but then we are talking about lots of space and money to invest in a solution like that.

I saw on TV a few years ago that there was this guy in Puerto Rico living at the top of a mountain and the power company refused to supply the electric fluid that far because it would cost a lot of money, so he went and learned everything he could about solar panels and all that until he was able to power his full house year round using the solar power. After some time he was so good that the power company requested his services to teach them how to do it.

I found this on the net:

http://www.newstarget.com/007088.html

http://www.newstarget.com/solar_power.html