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Old 10-19-2005, 06:44 PM
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Here is the url of a site that sells used micro turbines - $5k - $13k FRN

http://www.microturbinedepot.com/
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Old 10-20-2005, 09:53 AM
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Emer Pwr, Lawn Edger, DS Batt, Car Alt, Web Site

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Bro, email it to me and I'll upload it

prescott weishaupt @ yahoo . com

Yo Weis, here is an illustrated web site bout makin an emergency generator.

http://theepicenter.com/tow02077.html (Lawn Edger Engine Page)

http://theepicenter.com/tow082099.html (Lawn Mower Engine Page)

This web site combined with Steven Harris Solar Experiment Booklet is good stuff. Steven talks about how to calculat your energy usage to run some light bulbs, and a small radio etc., to know when to stick the battery back in the car and still have enough juice left to turn over the engine, let it idle and charge the battery back up.

Get a small diesel engine and build an emergency generator you can run on fry oil.
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Old 10-26-2005, 08:55 AM
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Check out micro turbines here
http://www.microturbine.com/technology/techDownload.asp

You can do co-gen with them, drop them across the utility lines to sell power, burn diesel or natural gas (not both though). Use the exhaust to heat water or home. They are the size of a file cabinet and 30 kw should handle most everybodies home. Also low maintenance.
I have been checking out the microturbines. To run them on natural gas at todays prices costs more than regular electricity. They would be great for biodiesel. I am checking out hydrogen and CO2 to make methane to see what that would cost.
Also, have ordered the fuelless engine plans and will get someone to build me one.
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Old 10-26-2005, 12:24 PM
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Undoubtably the cost of generating electricity by any local means is going to be possibly twice as high as what the utility will sell it to you for. The idea with cogen is if you have a need of heat as well as electricity you can combine the two needs and become more cost effective. Say you run a greenhouse in the far north. Rather than just using the heat to keep the greenhouse warm enough for plants you generate electricity first and use the waste heat to keep the greenhouse going.

When I was raised on a dairy farm in the 50's we fed the cows well, what passed through their system the sows ate (because we didn't feed them anything else). What the sows passed the chickens had a go at. I doubt if you can get any more productive than that.
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Old 10-26-2005, 12:57 PM
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Right, the microturbines are ideal for landfills or water treatment plants from which methane gas can be gathered to burn to run the turbines to produce electricity to run the plant-free energy. i guess methane could be produced from animal waste too. i just am not sure how the methane is captured and how much is needed to run the microturbine. On some of the other websites there are dicussions of ways to get hydrogen out of water very easily to run a car or in this case, run a turbine. I am just not sure of how the hydrogen would br csptured or stored.
They are also ideal where gas is already being used like hotels or college heated swimming pools to heat water. Take that gas to run the turbine, then use the heat coming off the turbine to heat water heat the rooms or to produce AC through chillers and by producing the electricity you have decreased your consumption of power company electricity.
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Old 10-27-2005, 01:30 PM
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I figure we should have a thread for site concerning how to generate power.


www.fuellesspower.com


www.altenergystore.com

This one has a forum there to help with your questions

I'll add a few more as I go back and find them. I forgot to import my list fromthe old browse- darn it.
Have ordered my fuelless engine plans supposed to be downloadable in 1-2 days, but was e-mailed saying that since oct 11 they have been swamped with requests. Guess they are profitting from the hurricanes.
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:39 PM
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http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Organizations/FuellessPower/index.html



These are a few negative responses about the site and products.
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:27 PM
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oh man I hope I didn't throw my money away
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:31 PM
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my first call in a.m. will be to cancel my debit card if the order hasn't gone thru, I wondered why you could't download the stuff right away, probably to get arround the 3 day cancellation provided by federal law. I'm having a laugh at myself, man am I easy.
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Old 10-31-2005, 03:18 PM
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ok I went ahead and bit the bullet and received the plans for the fuelless energy. I have reviewed one set of plans and so far it looks real. i know nothing about these matters but it seems possible. One problem is you have to build the motor to create the energy source and then build or buy a generator to run on the enrgy source to produce the electricity and then have a battery storage system like you would have for a solar system. So , there are several things needed, but to my untrained eye, it looks legit.
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