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Evacuation.
With regards to evacuation, as possible a plan that can be thought of to ensure the most sound opportunity to all. I know, that sounds simple, but look at the most recent example and I believe most here would agree that doesn't always happen. To the tune of what, eight hundred thousand? Only brought up to show that it still happens, and to such a degree.
If it is an area where there are elderly and infimed folks, they should obviously be evacuated first, and with the same care in mind they recieved normally.
That leaves the rest, the folks who are able bodied. Of these, you could expect some to choose to stay behind, and should be told them that they are truly on their own. Of the remaining able bodied, those who are evacuating, all that is left are the essentials.
I would like a critique of this and or, expounding of it.
Just my opinion here.
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09-05-2005, 11:41 AM
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Ultimatum
I think those who stay behind should be given a strict ultimatum: Leave or fend for yourself!
The talk of saving and rebuilding New Orleans seems ridiculous to me. Divide the estimated rebuild cost among the remaining refugees and subsidize their relocation. New Orleans needed this euthinization. Never could I even visit without coming away with a negative experience or encountering a modern day Sodom and Ghemorra. This was retribution! Even if the grubment was able to influence the weather patterns, this is a wake up call. America is in her death throws and can not recover.
Alot of good people have been affected by this, I know, but those good people have nothing to fear in the eternal perspective. Overall, it was a BAD place to be, for more reasons than one. What city is next?!
The response time in this matter has been deplorable and I only hope that this and the other recent events continue to help ordinary people to see the logic of their uninterested grubment.
I hope this stayed on topic, but I needed to speak my piece.\
Logan
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09-05-2005, 12:01 PM
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This came in my periscope newsletter: http://www.privateadvantageclub.org
>Perhaps more disturbing than the evident lack of serious
>attention to the worst disaster - natural or otherwise -
>in modern American history is that, even as Bush's numbers
>bottom out, the White House is not compelled to make a
>serious effort to appear as though it gives a damn. Not
>only don't they care, but they no longer need to be seen
>to care. And that seems to me like another remarkable
>catastrophic success story.
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GOVERNMENT WARNING:
-GOVERNMENTS ARE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!
DEATH, IMPRISONMENT, THEFT OF PROPERTY,
AND LOSS OF FREEDOM WILL RESULT FROM
GIVING THEM TOO MUCH POWER.
-When an honestly ignorant man learns the truth, he either ceases to be ignorant or he ceases to be honest!
"Why is there a red laser dot on my chest?"
What would Jesus do concerning the events of 911? Kill 1,118,000 innocent and unassociated people? Ignorance or Apathy: which one are you?
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09-05-2005, 12:58 PM
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>only don't they care, but they no longer need to be seen
>to care. And that seems to me like another remarkable
>catastrophic success story.
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As to this, why would he/they, this is his last term.
Logan, I too believe this destruction, and that is precisely what it was, was intended, and not by man. I believe the Almighty is speaking.
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09-05-2005, 02:09 PM
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Fema
Personally I think FEMA should be dismanteled. Here is yet another example of how private industry and the state goverment was handling a situation and FEMA screwed it all up.
Here is a link from informationclearinghouse
We Have Been Abandoned By Our Own Country
You have to watch this video to fully understand, how little regard our government has for the welfare of its own citizens.
Click here to view. Windows Media
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle10121.htm
Fazer
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09-05-2005, 08:01 PM
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WITHOUT PREJUDICE
For what its worth:
Despite many attempts for people to get me to go there and visit, I've avoided New Orleans. In the core of my guts since a time when I was much younger, I have never wanted to visit the place--or at least my sense against doing so was ever above any other interest in doing so. And even in prayer, a sense of foreboding--that I ought to avoid the place. New York is a place that I've long had similar senses about. I've wanted to at least visit New York. Had quite an opportunity back in August 2001 (and many times before), but I had a bad feeling about it--.my lifelong sentiments surged and so I stayed away.
I've had similar senses concerning both Los Angeles and the District of Columbia. DC moreso--even when I was there. But then, I wouldn't call myself a 'city slicker'.
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09-06-2005, 04:55 AM
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fulltitle. I have felt the same way about New Orleans, Los Angeles and New York. Like you, I've always wanted to go to New York City once. I've been to DC quite a few times, nothing to crow about except maybe Georgetown, I do like Georgetown. Oh, as for me, you can throw Las Vegas in there too.
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09-06-2005, 07:49 AM
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WITHOUT PREJUDICE
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Originally Posted by RickA
fulltitle. I have felt the same way about New Orleans, Los Angeles and New York. Like you, I've always wanted to go to New York City once. I've been to DC quite a few times, nothing to crow about except maybe Georgetown, I do like Georgetown. Oh, as for me, you can throw Las Vegas in there too.
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Vegas. That's another place. Georgetown is nice. The bookstores around DC and plentifulness of foreign language books and study materials is awesome. One awesome thing about DC: embassy events.
The spot I got the most bad vibe from in all of DC was Walter Reed. And the old treasury building from what I recall.
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09-06-2005, 12:39 PM
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300 evacuees
We currently have 300 evacuees living in an old nursing home facility without a cook stove or washers and dryers. I am not sure yet if they even have a refrigerator as most equipment was removed to the new location. Buses are letting them out and moving on and no one here has heard from FEMA yet. We didn't even know that we were on the list until the first people began arriving last night.
Our town is 2100 people large....figure it up, folks. WE are going to take care of these 300 folks somehow, someway. WE the people of this very small, very poor town ARE going to get this done.
These people have nothing and we will be damned if we will wait on the government to help. These people have been through enough. They will be fed and clothed and provided with beds if we have to strip our own homes to do it. We will cook for them in our homes if necessary and take the food to them. We will take them into our homes if it comes to that.
It was "We, the people" in the beginning. It is still "We, the people" when the going gets really tough. Love and hope are not found in government; they are found in the individual human heart.
So, spare a prayer or two for the many smaller communities doing their best to help as much as they can. Our souls ache for these displaced people and there is so little we feel we can do. We lack manpower, resources and money for this job, but we will not fail them.
FEMA could take lessons from Southern folks in how to "get 'er done" in a crisis.
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09-06-2005, 01:01 PM
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They will be fed and clothed and provided with beds if we have to strip our own homes to do it. We will cook for them in our homes if necessary and take the food to them. We will take them into our homes if it comes to that.
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We lack manpower, resources and money for this job, but we will not fail them.
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