They are trying to find you

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Originally Posted by wisper

Oh yeah I didn't mention ,Henry, that amplification of the unregulated signals in the 802.11 bandwidths, also can be prosecuted by the FCC or the WISP you steal from. This is one of those $10k/10yr deals on the law books.

Who needs no stinkin' amplification?



Its easy enough to build ominidirectional antennas for access points. Even easier to build directed antennas to aim at the omnidirectional access point. Quite a lot of range and speed can be achieved. Live in a rural area? Get a few neighbors to pitch in for broadband connection.


Built a wi-fi omnidirectional "downpipe" waveguide (have a machine shop machine it from plans). Share the connection with directed antennas.

See: http://reseaucitoyen.be/index.php?SardineCanAntenna; http://martybugs.net/wireless/biquad/double.cgi (double biquad); http://nuke.freenet-antennas.com/mod...=article&sid=1 (waveguide/omnidirectional/for shared basestation)



Lookie what these dudes did: http://www.wafreenet.org/content/hillshub.html

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An even easier omni:



Its basically coaxial cable inside PVC pipe for dressing and protection.

http://wireless.gumph.org/articles/homemadeomni.html

[David Merrill]

Whisper;


If you are concerned about people stealing your signal for an access point, then enable your WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy). I am certain that the law you mention requires some sort of hacking to be in violation. That is to say the fellow on the roadside has to intentionally defeat your security. In other words no security when you could have is an open invitation for others to use your bandwidth. On the other hand, you can access the Web from your notebook and Pocket PC all over town through other peoples' WiFi - and guilt free because you are paying for your contribution to this freestyle high-bandwidth network.

The culpability for Internet actions will finally rest upon the originating address. Sure, while tracking the activity a homeowner might come under suspicion but that would be quickly resolved. If the legislation you mention allows open invitations for use to be included in the parameters of the statute the paper is useless. Most likely they (law enforcement) do not enjoy harassing an unsuspecting homeowner on the trail to the real culprit. The legislators would have to make it mandatory for the WEP to be enabled at the factory and for the homeowner to have to disable it to function in law. [Albeit there are people who just lay down and take it.]

Just yesterday I was enjoying Thanksgiving dinner in a fancy hotel. We thought of some older folks and decided to offer to-go dinner afterward. I pulled out my Pocket PC, foldable keyboard and WiFi card and went to work. They got their meal. I just linked up to the hotel WiFi. They of course keep WEP disabled or choose to spend a lot of time giving out the access code.

When I first got WiFi at Christmas my neighbor did too. We both have a backup because the houses are fairly close. He saw me out in the yard with my Pocket PC and I asked him (more like told him) about his new WiFi. We immediately agreed that it is good to have a backup. It is great for troubleshooting to be able to logon to an alternate access point with a couple mouse clicks.

Another anecdote. While discussing installation with the technicians I was told by one candid fellow that many of the Holiday WiFis were being returned. The customers in apartments and condos hook it up only to discover they have three or four neighbors they can leech from. In my opinion that is leeching; not to contribute by having an open-access point that you provide for. If doing large uploads and downloads, you might slow the access point enough for the paying supporter to notice.

It is good to be able to logon with high bandwidth anywhere within 500 feet anymore. When riding in a car or bus, I can often scan for an access point and send/receive before the light turns green. I have no external antenna jack or I would experiment around with the cantennas like above. Just for fun.

Soon the city will be providing free WiFi all over. More and more that is happening through the cell phone systems.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[idknow]

Originally Posted by test

I am sure someone will step up with a "time delay scrambler" or something to fool them, just give them some time to work on it.

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seems like one more line of demarcation for US against THEM

how sad and thank god it's almost over.

i think we're down to double digit years away from HIS arrival.

your anointed brother idknow

[wisper]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

Whisper;


If you are concerned about people stealing your signal for an access point, then enable your WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy). I am certain that the law you mention requires some sort of hacking to be in violation. That is to say the fellow on the roadside has to intentionally defeat your security. In other words no security when you could have is an open invitation for others to use your bandwidth. On the other hand, you can access the Web from your notebook and Pocket PC all over town through other peoples' WiFi - and guilt free because you are paying for your contribution to this freestyle high-bandwidth network. ...snipped....


David Merrill.

I agree that free WIFI is great. Most the people who are in the wifi camp, have servers or they hire companies like Boango to keep track of subsriber' s uses . I have not gotten into the hot-spot or WIFI business as yet, and may or may not. As you may have figured, I am not a tech guru, but I will say this, unlike WIFI (wireless on the fly)we are an internet service provider. Our service is wireless so we are a WISP not just an ISP.
It would take hackers to steal from us! Or if one ot our customers uses a router in their home and don't set it up per directions, they in effect can look like a WIFI, and their close neighbors may be able to use their link. We have the tools (like Radius) to see this and all we do is help the router owner secure their system. Every once in a while a link will show up on my computer, if I look for it, but only once, over in Nevada was the signal strong enough to get on the link.
In my post where I mentioned theft, I assummed that people were talking about a network operating in the*static* mode vs. dynamic*, and all one needs is to get the Code we put in the cpe and they may be able to get in. With dynamic settings, our router is constantly changing the IP address so it would get tougher and we also have switch server and router protections, but that doesn't mean some smart person can't compromise that entry point, the cpe (Customer access eqipment). In our service we have codes in our APs our CPEs and we use other security levels in a few layers of the OSI model. I have told you about all I know, but I am learning the field, just as I am learning about being a soveran, and other things here at SuiJuris.
Our systems are capable of as much as 10 to 15 miles, but the connections are pretty much line of sight and point to multi-point.

[David Merrill]

Dear Wisper;


I was talking about those 300' range boxes everybody seems to be getting anymore. So that you can move your notebook anywhere in the house and in coffee shops, hotels and motels. People just plug-n-play with no thought to securing the WEP.

I wanted to see if it was worth the gas to go over to somebody's house to pick up a package. So I just went slow until I got an unsecured signal and checked with the online tracking. Easy.


Regards,

David Merrill.

WEP can be cracked fairly easy, within about 5 to 10 minutes and then someone can use your bandwidth once they know your WEP key.

Another way to secure your SOHO wireless networking system is to use WEP in combination with an authorized MAC list. For this you need one of those cheap WAP/Router combo's with a builtin Firewall & DHCP. (Most already have this unless you have only an AP plugged directly in to your broadband connection device [DSL, cable modem, ISDN, Satellite, etc.]) With the Router/AP/DHCP/Firewall combo, you code the MAC addresses of your wireless cards into the DHCP server and then, only authorized MAC addresses can get assigned an internal IP from your local router (usually a 192.xxx.xxx.xxx address) which is then converted to a routable address through your broad band connection which is the device hardwire connected to the Router. Unless someone has the MAC address of your card and can spoof it, they cannot connect to your wireless access point and get an ip address that will allow a connection to the net through your SOHO network. You don't need WEP enabled for this restriction to work; however, your packets can still be intercepted and "read" easily without WEP enabled. WEP adds a layer of protection by encrypting the wireless tranceive of packets between the AP and your Card.

[SKYGZR]

(4) 'puters on my "network", all "WIRED", none of this "wireless" non-sense!!
If ya gonna do it, hard wire it!! Makes more sense than "non-cents"!! 'nuff said

[Leiahi]

Hello all,

been away from the board a while....

This is very interesting.......

Originally Posted by rushpat

NSA trying to get a patent on a method to find your PHYSICAL ADDRESS when surfing the web (regardless of counter measures):

http://www.raptureme.com/cgi-bin/rrn...ational_Securi

and right in line with what rushpat said, I find this is my news box.
They already know where the "people" are at!?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051218/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

It sure could get more interesting, you think?

[idknow]

Originally Posted by wisper

At whose expense are you stealing this bandwidth. If you were using (stealing) my bandwidth, I would use the law to prosecute to the full extent! Or are you of the mind that you have a constitutional right to that which I pay dearly for?

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Wisper, are you forgetting about the kindness of "like-minded" strangers?

I would setup a free hot-point in my neightbor hood to circumvent such NSA shananigans

of course, i would also find someone in the neighborhood to do the same so that I could also hide my packets.