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[mystic one]

Comparing gun laws: Illinois vs. Indiana

Gun safety advocates say Indiana's gun laws are weak, especially compared with Illinois' restrictions on sales.

Restrictions: Illinois vs Indiana
Need a permit or license to purchase a gun? Yes No
Background checks on private or secondary sales? Yes No
Can state police do background check for all guns? Yes No
Are there limitations on assault weapons? No No
Is it illegal to sell guns to juveniles? Yes Yes
Is safety training required for handgun buyers? No No
Can communities OK laws tougher than state's? Yes No

Source: The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

[mystic one]

IC 35-47-2-1
Carrying a handgun without a license or by person convicted of domestic battery
Sec. 1. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b) and section 2 of this chapter, a person shall not carry a handgun in any vehicle or on or about the person's body, except in the person's dwelling, on the person's property or fixed place of business, without a license issued under this chapter being in the person's possession.
(b) Unless the person's right to possess a firearm has been restored under IC 3-7-13-5 or IC 33-28-4-8, a person who has been convicted of domestic battery under IC 35-42-2-1.3 may not possess or carry a handgun in any vehicle or on or about the person's body in the person's dwelling or on the person's property or fixed place of business.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32. Amended by P.L.326-1987, SEC.1; P.L.195-2003, SEC.6; P.L.98-2004, SEC.155.

[Satori]

Ah, contraband.

With all the hullaballoo regarding them, we tend to forget that they're mechanisms of, what, cast iron or something, and interchangeable parts? What's to stop me from buying a handgun in pieces from different merchants and then assembling it? Or from doing a commercial lien against the misguided fellow who refuses to sell me a gun without first going through a lot of color of law, after he's been given notice that he doesn't have to do so, and getting the gun anyway? Sure the lien is then on file at the recorder's office, but they just don't check there for guns, they check the gun registration files. Or liening on a corporation somewhere for being naughty and treasonable, selling it off, and putting the proceeds toward the equipment to manufacture guns, guns in tons! It's all lawful. If our forefathers had the technology to manufacture them in their newly-established colonies and fight the British at the same time, what's our excuse when the whole treasonous country is our slimy sea mollusc, er, oyster?

- Satori

[mystic one]

http://www.bradycampaign.org/legisla...tate.php?st=in


above is a nice link to indiana laws... People if you want to buy a gun with the least amount of hassles, come to indiana ..


Or, we can start our own "private network" buying/selling and/or manufacturing our own..

Indiana requires no permit to "purchase" a gun, No requirement to register it... The only requirement is a permit to pack your piece thats it..

W/o having it registered,, your gun is "state" clean.

[Satori]

Here's where the rubber meets the road, methinks. We've learned elsewhere on Sui Juris that state laws are statutory creations for corporate entities. What need do we have to be concerned about them? Mr. Gun Merchant won't sell them to us without first performing some quaint ritual of color of law that we've outgrown and in which we refuse to take part? We have the law! Can we not compel him not to violate our right to bear arms, do say a commercial lien for treason on that very basis, get the default determination of guilty, and rather than take him into a statutory court for sentancing, settle for a contract from him in which he sells us guns (perhaps at a reduced rate, at that!)? Can we not, then, get our grubby little hands on any quantity of guns we desire, after waiting for the lien to mature, through a permanent vendor?

Hee.

And thereby, get the guns back into circulation and set the foreign bankers plans back by like seventy years. Just by applying the law as we've learned it.

To take away the guns, the bankers need to have the law first. To take away the law, they'd better have the guns first. They were counting on not getting found out, and if they were, on being able to disarm the people regardless. There are too many ways to rearm them while their plan is not yet complete. It's all starting to make Watergate look like the Crime of the Century in comparison.

- Satori

[mystic one]

I get comic relief from your posts.. How about we just Put a Ucc Filing on the white house , attach it as an addenum. claim our lien is superior, then when we forclosure on the white house and throw a big party in it...... Then after we shoot the bildeberges we can a party in the morgue.

Mr. Bush you have 48 hours to vacate the property, or im sending a vacate notice. Then we put a land patent on the white house and have like a "groovy woodstock" duuuuuude. aweeeeesome.. LOL

[Satori]

Originally Posted by mystic one

I get comic relief from your posts.. How about we just Put a Ucc Filing on the white house , attach it as an addenum. claim our lien is superior, then when we forclosure on the white house and throw a big party in it...... Then after we shoot the bildeberges we can a party in the morgue.

The only problem there is that the Executive branch has all the guns. Other than that, it's fine with me. D.C. isn't our capitol; Philadelphia is. Really though, I prefer to have the statutory courts do the executions for me; less room for charges of murder being leveled against me. We pay 'em; they might as well do their job.

The primary distinction betwen the White House and Mr. Gun Merchant is that Mr. Gun Merchant doesn't have storm troopers. When we compel him to sell us guns, he in all likelihood doesn't have the number for the fascist Batphone that brings hundreds of armed federal agents onto our property in 30 minutes or less to Waco us out of history.

- Satori

[palani]

http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/index.shtml

Bypass the middle man and make your own. Download from above site for manual on how to make your own 100% legal (because it never entered the stream of commerce) 9mm machine pistol using a hacksaw and file. While the gun may be legal possession of commercial ammo for it may not be.

[Leiahi]

...more pennies in the pot here.....

Was it not always said, that, silence is stealth?

Whatever. A safe full of guns is never enough. We've got family history and investments in long bows and recurves, and I just bought some dart guns yesterday. Now wouldn't that start a riot! and hey! no registration necessary!

If all else fails, we can study natural compound poisons as an option...or grow frogs, and blow like hell...!!
Is that a dollar yet?

[Satori]

Originally Posted by Leiahi

We've got family history and investments in long bows and recurves, and I just bought some dart guns yesterday. Now wouldn't that start a riot! and hey! no registration necessary!

If all else fails, we can study natural compound poisons as an option...or grow frogs, and blow like hell...!!
Is that a dollar yet?

Uhm, UN "peacekeeping" troops have riot gear and modern personal defenses as well as offense. I don't meant to get personal, but I doubt if you could blow hard enough. Ordnances, a la the Anarchy files online (also referred to as the "100 Ways to Blow Yourself Up In Your Own Kitchen" files) do have some meritorious notions though. For example, Feathertouch, a rather gooey mixture of two commonly-available chemicals resulting in a paint-on contact explosive. Quite harmeless when wet, it is applied to a surface. Once dried, the slightest contact will set it off. I've encountered rumours of a student who daubed it into the lock of a door at their local school. When the teacher inserted her key, the friction set off the feathertouch and the resulting combustion blew the internal locking mechanism apart, driving the key back out and through her hand in the process. One has to develop a fondness for a substance like that.

Unconventional warfare was devastatingly effective the first time. Should it become necessary again there would be plenty of methods by which to effect it. My point in recirculating the guns was as a blatant signal to the bankers to reevaluate commencing to overtly levy the country by force. Caveat emptor.


- Satori