Why do people scorn sacrifice these days?

[Phssthpok]

I am in the first stages arranging my affairs so that I may go 'mobile' and live in a 24' Trailer for a couple of years to reduce living expenses in order to rapidly save money for land.

No fixed location = no rent
No power bill
No water bill
No sewer bill
No cable bill

My only bills will be the occasional propane refills,cell phone, and food. (and student loan) There are about a half dozen places I can park temporarily for sure near my work (which has sanitary facilities I can use....including showers)... and a couple I might get permission to use permanently.

People at work tend to view this plan with (putting it politely) skepticism. Some just plain think I'm nuts. One guy thinks it hilarious...in a good way. Keeps calling it a 'coup' and that he'll be laughing his arse off when I 'retire' in 2-3 years. ( but he's also the one who's looking at buying an old fishing trawler and converitng it to a living space, so HE at least understands...)

Yet these same people would think that getting a second job (to save up money) would be a stellar idea! Why would I burn myself out at a second job, only to pay a portion of my extra money to the gummint? So I can keep a fixed address with all those bills and have no time to do anything but sleep? Not to mention that the 'extra money' I'd get from a second job (most likely part time/minimum wage) wouldn't be anywhere NEAR as much as the savings I'd realize by paring my life down to a spartan existance in the TT.

You think it's latent jealousy, maybe? Or maybe it's just a 'herd' mentality.

Spartan life = nuts
Second job = noble

I just don't get it.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by Phssthpok

I am in the first stages arranging my affairs so that I may go 'mobile' and live in a 24' Trailer for a couple of years to reduce living expenses in order to rapidly save money for land.

No fixed location = no rent
No power bill
No water bill
No sewer bill
No cable bill

My only bills will be the occasional propane refills,cell phone, and food. (and student loan) There are about a half dozen places I can park temporarily for sure near my work (which has sanitary facilities I can use....including showers)... and a couple I might get permission to use permanently.

People at work tend to view this plan with (putting it politely) skepticism. Some just plain think I'm nuts. One guy thinks it hilarious...in a good way. Keeps calling it a 'coup' and that he'll be laughing his arse off when I 'retire' in 2-3 years. ( but he's also the one who's looking at buying an old fishing trawler and converitng it to a living space, so HE at least understands...)

Yet these same people would think that getting a second job (to save up money) would be a stellar idea! Why would I burn myself out at a second job, only to pay a portion of my extra money to the gummint? So I can keep a fixed address with all those bills and have no time to do anything but sleep? Not to mention that the 'extra money' I'd get from a second job (most likely part time/minimum wage) wouldn't be anywhere NEAR as much as the savings I'd realize by paring my life down to a spartan existance in the TT.

You think it's latent jealousy, maybe? Or maybe it's just a 'herd' mentality.

Spartan life = nuts
Second job = noble

I just don't get it.

If you can do it, and nobody messes with you, do it!

Spartan life=Spartan life

Spartan=Strong

Second job=more "taxes" withheld, burning candle at both ends, putting up with more "job" BS etc...

If you can live simple and be happy, that is something!

People used to save their money just like what you are planning.

That used to be "noble."

I have a brother who lives in Badger California right next door to Kings Canyon and Sequoia Nat. Park who lived in a small "trailer" and still does.

He is sort of a hermit by inclination, but loves nature, and loves living simple.

He does accounting by computer and internet.

Living simply has kept him in excellant health.

He now owns several acres of beautiful land.

Don't talk too much about what you are planning to those people who want to ridicule you.

If you can live that kind of life--and there is something to be said for it--go for it.

You would be surprised at how your amenities increase after you have been living like that for awhile.

My two cents.

Phssthpok,

I get it, totally. Thanks mrg for responding, and bumping this back up to the top. I meant to respond earlier, and got sidetracked.

You are wise to do what you are doing.

Keep moving in the truth.

Henry Franklin

Hey.... Sounds really ideal. Something similar to what is on my plate at the present time. Living off the land, supplementing the current needs with only one income in the family and a small one at that.

Jerry.

[palani]

If you sacrifice for something you will value it more than if it is given to you on a plate.

The mindset of most people seems to be borrow, wait for inflation to permit a 'profit' and do it again. However, the profit actually turns out to be a loss whan adjusted for inflation, you pay taxes on that loss (still viewed by the government to be a profit) and need a full time job to pay for your bad habits.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by Phssthpok

I am in the first stages arranging my affairs so that I may go 'mobile' and live in a 24' Trailer for a couple of years to reduce living expenses in order to rapidly save money for land.

No fixed location = no rent
No power bill
No water bill
No sewer bill
No cable bill

My only bills will be the occasional propane refills,cell phone, and food. (and student loan) There are about a half dozen places I can park temporarily for sure near my work (which has sanitary facilities I can use....including showers)... and a couple I might get permission to use permanently.

I certainly think you are on the right track.

I agree with the other posters, especially about staying out dept, and living off the land, whenever possible.

Keep up the good work.

"My philosophy in essence is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity and reason as his only absolute" - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged.

To sacrifice your own well being and happiness for someone else is simply a waste. Self sacrifice for the sake of another is nothing more than collectivism in disguise. My dear friend you are not being scorned because of self sacrifice for another, if you were doing that the masses with their collectivist inbreeding would worship you as their superhuman common man hero . . . no my friend, you are being scorned because you are making a conscious choice . . . gambling on your self for your own future well being . . . You are an evil individualist who wants to be self suficient and free of their controls and therefore you are evil and should be scorned in their eyes. The scorners may not know this consciously it is something that is ingrained as a programmed response due to years of collectivist programming from the government and media. Deep down they know you are showing that you have no need for the system they love and are doing something to free yourself and the sheeple content to live within the herd are attempting to use peer pressure to get you to reconsider. This is a part of the sub-conscious programming ingrained since childhood to keep people compliant with their masters wishes. If the masses woke up and realized this there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning but since they don't they are doing their masters bidding without even being conscious that they are doing it.

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe said it best, "None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free".

You see and realize what the masses around you do not see nor realize and that is what they scorn.

[macerico]

I told a family member that I intend to get a piece of land and build a place off the grid (no water and sewage from a municipality, no electricity or phone). She thought I was nuts.

Granted, the creature comforts are nice, but once you're hooked on them, it's hard to adapt to doing without them.

[Phssthpok]

I finally got a chance to work on the trailer I plan on living in.

I managed to get the solar panels/charge controller/batteries wired into the system. Everything worked!!

I had lights, and a radio (A GM-Delco Automotive unit that I thought was busted)

Solar Panels (the bungies are to keep the wind from knocking them over)

Charge Controller (doing it's thing with 4 lights, the stove vent-fan, AND the radio pumping!)


I'm really starting to get pumped about my plans now

[Admin]

Wow! Thanks for sharing those photos with us.