Moorish ancestry of America

[Lawdog]

All this Moorish stuff KingC posted is crap. I defy you to find any history professor at any decent college or university who gives that garbage any credence.

It's black supremacist propaganda, and has no more credibility than white supremacist propaganda.

[Special11]

You have not been reading obviously. Maybe you should start from the beginning. IMHO. Way to much information.

Happy reading
Special11

[netwrkranger]

Regardless of if you feel the information of the Moorish Science Temple is garbage or not, there is one very legitimate question that they pose that all so-called African-Americans should ask themselves.

What is your nationality?

Black, negro, and mulatto, certainly don't qualify as a nationality. Africa is a continent composed of 54 nations. America could be North, Central, or South America.

Others would be:

Why was the 14th Amendment created when there was a preamble citizenship of the Constitution?
How did so-called Africans become chattel property in the first place?

[KingC]

black propaganda...tsk tsk.

hardly so especially since u have people of irish origin like peter lamborn wilson and others that know their moorish heritage and created the moorish orthodox church.

R

[KingC]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fBZmpMZI4jE

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mQ2tpqyVrI4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C3Icy4PuoGo

[KingC]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

All this Moorish stuff KingC posted is crap. I defy you to find any history professor at any decent college or university who gives that garbage any credence.

It's black supremacist propaganda, and has no more credibility than white supremacist propaganda.

its funny u brought up white supremacist becuz the kkk which is really a masonic group actually know quite well about the moors...the kkk garb is egyptian...their garb is also used by catholics in spain...til this day.

[KingC]

Originally Posted by psholtz

A history of the Moors given from the "white man's" perspective, but interesting nonetheless:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...52946552202502
(When the Moors Ruled Europe)

i remember this vid...3:00 minutes into this vid you'll see what mysteriously looks like a klansman robe and hood...

Ever wonder why the vice president of the kkk is the klaliff (caliph) and their book is called the kloran (koran/quran).....and nobody overseas handed them this information....they hated catholics so why are they wearing the robes the catholics were in that vid??????

[amenmesse]

Originally Posted by netwrkranger

How did so-called Africans become chattel property in the first place?

Not every country/nation in history has maintained prisons. Sometimes murderers and thieves are sold as slaves. Other times debtors are also sold as slaves.

http://amistad.mysticseaport.org/lib...ct.court.trial


"Cingue, the leader of the Africans, being called as a witness, Covey, the interpreter, was sworn to interpret the oath to him. The clerk read the oath and Covey repeated it to Cingue in their native tongue..........


Mr. Wilcox, the U. S. Marshal, was examined relative to a conversation he had with Cingue, soon after the arrival of Covey, (the interpreter). Mr. Wilcox stated that he understood from Covey, (which he now denies), that Cingue had said that he had sold slaves, and that he himself was seized and sold to pay a debt which he had contracted, and could not pay. Professor Gibbs and Mr. Day who were present at the time, stated that there was much confusion in the room, arising from many asking questions, &c., and think that Mr. Wilcox must have misapprehended what Cingue said."

In either case the Amistad will show some history of slaveing in America.

[KingC]

Originally Posted by amenmesse

Not every country/nation in history has maintained prisons. Sometimes murderers and thieves are sold as slaves. Other times debtors are also sold as slaves.

http://amistad.mysticseaport.org/lib...ct.court.trial


"Cingue, the leader of the Africans, being called as a witness, Covey, the interpreter, was sworn to interpret the oath to him. The clerk read the oath and Covey repeated it to Cingue in their native tongue..........


Mr. Wilcox, the U. S. Marshal, was examined relative to a conversation he had with Cingue, soon after the arrival of Covey, (the interpreter). Mr. Wilcox stated that he understood from Covey, (which he now denies), that Cingue had said that he had sold slaves, and that he himself was seized and sold to pay a debt which he had contracted, and could not pay. Professor Gibbs and Mr. Day who were present at the time, stated that there was much confusion in the room, arising from many asking questions, &c., and think that Mr. Wilcox must have misapprehended what Cingue said."

In either case the Amistad will show some history of slaveing in America.

his name was sengbe pieh.

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

Someone (not me) needs to do some figuring, to see if the historical account adds up.

Slaves were imported to the States/Colonies for a bit over 100 years. (By 1805 this trade was abolished)

So count how many ships could have landed, with how many folks, etc.

There were (supposedly) about one million "colored" in British America circa 1776. This tells me that relatively few people were ever landed on these shores in that manner.

But who knows, we dont really have accurate stats anyway. Whats the difference anyway? Netwrkranger made a telling point here: what is my nationality? This ties in with PAC/Bork and other similar approaches. Nationality is important...I personally feel I have no nationality anyway, but maybe thats impossible, since everyone is from some nation or another.