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Old 10-03-2004, 11:51 AM
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ok, ill find the quote about Paul admitting he is a liar. now, if you get a new living bible (i think thats the name of it) and look up act 13:1, they same Simeon the black man, they just changed out the word niger. so if they are saying niger is black man, hey, look, the word nigger came from the river niger. so nigger, niger, its the same. we just live in a day and time where they didnt feel comfortable keeping that word in the bible so they took it out in the later bibles.
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Old 10-04-2004, 08:09 AM
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I'll take your word for it. But having only that one line to go on, why do you read such malice into the character of the writer?



And didn't nigger come from negro?

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Old 10-05-2004, 11:27 AM
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i'd love to hop in on this discussion... but hard holding a baby. I will say this though. goto http://www.eliyah.org - the author there is Messianic, I believe. He has many articles on there showing the Paul did not say to abolish the Law at all. He goes back to the Greek and Hebrew and does wonderful exegesis. Very convincing.



If someone would tell me how to chang the name of the topic I would love to. I have tried making a post and changing the subject line but it has not worked.
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Old 10-05-2004, 02:33 PM
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<font color=darkblue face=verdana>The word "nigger" comes from the Latin word "niger" which simply means "black".



juststartingout,



edit the FIRST post in the thread and changing the subject there will change the subject in the entire thread.





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Old 10-05-2004, 04:09 PM
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There are things to get up in arms about, and there are things to let rest, kgod.

I love the info and am eating it up, but the issue of "Niger" being derogatory in the Bible is forcing <u>our </u> culture's all too common prejudices on something written 2K years ago.

Ever hear of Little John, or Fat Charles or Pretty Susan?

Black Simeon could(IMHO) just be referenced that way, or better yet, described that way simply because his contemporaries knew him as such. I don't know if it was necessarily a derogatory status to be darker skinned in the Roman world then. Many of Paul's contemporaries were slaves and it was economic status that put them there, not skin color.

My experience in this part of Alaska, we have three black people in our population of about 3K. Most of us are homesteaders and like to be mimimally interfered with by govt.and most of us are paler skin or Alaskan native - an oriental look, honestly. Two of the black people are kids adopted from Haiti, age 7 and 8. They have unique enough names we just know them as Bonnie and Josiah. The other black person is Mike. Now hang on here folks. We know him as Black Mike. In conversations with others, no one sees it negative. It is just descriptive. Heck, I don't even know his last name!



Now with that said, I believe our present govt WANTS to have racism persist. As long as we can fight among ourselves, we can never "pay attention to the man behind the curtain." (Wizard of Oz). I don't have to begin on all of the govt prgms that perpetuate economic dependence from our brothers and sisters who happened to go a different direction from Babel so long ago.

Back to Moorish and Morocan themes:

I read the treaty. Very cool! But at the end, it says, "This Treaty shall continue in full Force, with the help of God for Fifty Years"

How does this fit for today?

scott

PS: thanks for the links, kgod. I know its extra effort, but it is appreciated by more than me, I am sure.

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Old 10-06-2004, 09:29 AM
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Weis, you got that right about threads getting off-track--this one is doing just that.



Folks, as an objective observer I must say this about the word 'niger and nigger'. It is what you make it. If you acknowledge the word(s) and it makes one react positively or negatively--then the word has power over one and all. And the one using it on others to get said reaction has power over those people. Anytime you can speak and make something physical happen to someone--you have control. Look at Presidents, Hitler, Stalin, Atilla the Hun, supremacy groups, and so on.



But starve a word of that lifeblood and it dies. people say that they don't like the word--but they rarely live what they say. So don't talk about it--be about it. I for one look at folks with a blank stare when it is said because I do not know what it means and nor can I identify with it. I don't give it life and it is meaningless to me.



The color of my skin has not prevented me from helping anyone or asking for help. It has not stopped me from breathing or eating. So if most of my physical capabilities are still in tact--why in the world would I let a word make react negatively when nature hasn't?



The past few posts reflect just what I am saying. The thread is getting off track. Its going into bible verses, alleged 'bad' words, and renaming of threads.



This is suppose to be a teaching thread on the Moors and their influence on our society from past to present times. I know where kgod wants to go with this thread but, I suspect kgod may be a little frustrated with other things and not really focused on teaching right now. This is understandable if everyone knew a little past history on kgod and how far he has come. Kgod may be a little pissed about somethings outside of this topic so, distraction can easily occur---I'm guilty of this as well.



So this is my attempt to get the thread on a teaching mode and kgod back into focus. He has a lot to offer with this type of knowledge (whether it is accepted or dismissed is not the issue---getting the information out for investigation is the issue).



But as always do what you will with the thread; however, don't miss the message just because its wrapped differently.



This is just my recommendation of course--not the rules. So good luck to all and have fun! :-)

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Old 10-06-2004, 02:10 PM
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it may be off context and not important to people like us in this forum who can read and dont care for such stuff, but its important to the masses of people. why? because the same minds who put that in the bible are the same minds who have mislead people with the WHOLE religious game. they dont want you to know who God really is. so, i point out that word as just a reference point like a million other things they have in the bible. people will tell you that you need to be saved. i say saved from what? see, you gotta know the truth before you make these comments. the ministers dont know what saved really means (most of them). it means going thru the 9 degrees of the order of Melchelzidek. aint got nothing to do with being accepting christ and being dumped into water. learn the truth. amen
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Continue to enlighten please. Pick up from where you left off.
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Old 10-07-2004, 02:14 AM
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the order of Melchelzedik was brought here from the 19th galaxy illyun. in revelations they talk about the war in heaven between Michael (Melchelzedik) and his angels vs the dragon(devil) and his angels. This is simply the war that started between the Annunaki and the reptilians who were rebels and refused to accept Anu as the Most High. The Annunaki's planet was destroyed and they relocated on this planet and brought their order with them. Tarnush was the reptilian that couldnt be converted (the devil), and thus him and his seed are at war with the children of the Annunaki to this very day. They started the order of the luciferians to fight our order and they infiltrated the lower orders of Melchelzedik (Scottish and York rites,etc.) and started the illuminati which 33rd degree Master Masons are chosen from. The 9 degrees of the order of Melchelzedik deal with the secrets of the universe. It was watered down and the Europeans were given 3 degrees from the Moors instead of the nine. the 33 degrees within those 3 degrees are honorary degrees. Europeans will never be given the 9 because of the illuminati's control over this planet. Thats why i said that America will never be free until they go back and respect their Mothers and Fathers, the children of the Most High, the Moors (black man). There is no way around it. Why do you think the Mayans and other tribes around the world have the same predictions has revelations? These hurricanes are whooping up on America because Bush got his butt over their killing innocents over money. Georgia (the heart of Atlantis) had a big earthquake last year, they never had one before like that. All the gold in Georgia dried up when the land was stolen from the Most High's children.(trail of tears). This is all HISstory that has to be set right with the truth. Hurricanes, earthquakes, Mt St Hell, i mean Helens about the erupt, signs of the times. Amen Ra, planet X (the mothership)
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I've heard all those things before, except for the order of Melchizedek. What makes you believe all this?



Where does Mel himself tie into this history of yours, and Jesus after that?

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