Team Law

[clarkee]

Does anyone have any comments on the Team Law website?

[David Merrill]

Please link it.

I have already commented in a past thread here about Team Law and Eric Madsen. I have an audio, fairly recent - Eric on a radio show about trusts.


The man is a genius but has never really been able to get anything off the ground. His group of trustees or whatever always seems to dwindle at the same rate it grows...



Regards,

David Merrill.

[psholtz]

Madsen seems quite well-informed and his desire "restore the Republic" seems - as far it goes - to be all well and good, but it seems to me that he's in it largely for commercial gain, all the while failing to see that it is/was unjust commercial gain that brought about the collapse and death of the (first) American Republic.

There also seem to be various connections between his group and the Mormon Church..

[clarkee]

www.teamlaw.org

[David Merrill]

http://www.teamlaw.org/Warn1.pdf

The .pdf file is protected from cut-and-paste but search out WARn for "NLP". Eric boasts of his ability to debate with Neurolinguistic Programming and how many millions of $ it has turned. Well...

In this audio file you can hear the usage of NLP; to the point where the interviewer is obviously annoyed by Eric's approach. It fails to come across genuine but the NLP used is simply asking the interview questions so that it sounds to the listener like the conclusions were actually made by the interviewer, not Eric. In its effective form, the interviewer, or other party to any conversation, would come away thinking they had actually thought up what Eric planted in their mind.

When NLP flops, it is quite annoying. Eric used it on me in a small meeting at his home over a decade ago. Fortunately the phone rang with an important call. Mentally, I felt flogged! - Like he had been punching me in the stomach and while he was taking the call in his office one of his disciples told me, "Don't worry. Eric is one of the world's greatest NLP masters."

In a telephone conversation with Eric he revealed his confession of faith to be Church of Latter Day Saints. However I have interviewed with a Mormon exploring The Republic, patriotism, sovereignty - whatever you want to call it. And when he came down to where the rubber meets the road explaining the truth to The Elders in a meeting; they get stonewalled by Article 12 of the Articles of Faith, a much more explicit Romans 13 doctrine. So while Eric enjoys worshipping with the Mormons, he is not of a Mormon doctrine with Team Law.

http://www.lds.org/library/display/0...-1-2-1,FF.html


Regards,

David Merrill.

[psholtz]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

When NLP flops, it is quite annoying. Eric used it on me in a small meeting at his home over a decade ago. Fortunately the phone rang with an important call. Mentally, I felt flogged! - Like he had been punching me in the stomach and while he was taking the call in his office one of his disciples told me, "Don't worry. Eric is one of the world's greatest NLP masters."

Yes, I've debated w/ Eric (online) before, and although I wouldn't characterize myself as feeling "mentally flogged" from the experience, I did come away feeling quite annoyed. His general style struck me as (ultimately) being extremely evasive, disingenous and in some sense frankly criminal (although I couldn't exactly put my finger on why I felt that way). He refuses to answer very simple questions point blank, instead always trying to evade or distort or contort the issue at hand.

Which is not to say that he isn't intelligent -- he certainly seems to be. It's just that one gets the sense that there is something extremely shady about him and his general approach.

I ultimately came to the conclusion that there is little to nothing that Eric is selling that is not already in the public domain, and so I relegated him into the bucket of so many other "Pay-triots" out there. If you google around, you'll find that some people out there who have forked over the big $$ for this "trust" packages have come away feeling quite ripped off. Frankly I felt ripped off just trying to talk to the guy, and so I declined any further involvement w/ him or his various "trust" schemes and packages.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by psholtz

Yes, I've debated w/ Eric (online) before, and although I wouldn't characterize myself as feeling "mentally flogged" from the experience, I did come away feeling quite annoyed. His general style struck me as (ultimately) being extremely evasive, disingenous and in some sense frankly criminal (although I couldn't exactly put my finger on why I felt that way). He refuses to answer very simple questions point blank, instead always trying to evade or distort or contort the issue at hand.

Which is not to say that he isn't intelligent -- he certainly seems to be. It's just that one gets the sense that there is something extremely shady about him and his general approach.

I ultimately came to the conclusion that there is little to nothing that Eric is selling that is not already in the public domain, and so I relegated him into the bucket of so many other "Pay-triots" out there. If you google around, you'll find that some people out there who have forked over the big $$ for this "trust" packages have come away feeling quite ripped off. Frankly I felt ripped off just trying to talk to the guy, and so I declined any further involvement w/ him or his various "trust" schemes and packages.

Indeed the NLP would be about impossible to pull off by keyboard conversation.

I think people are wise to listen to testimony about Eric. On the other hand the guy is in my estimation a genius. So maybe it is beneficial to be a disciple; but that is to say, of a very small esoteric. - Which I am not. I could have been, if I was a wannabee but he really turned me off to the whole thing.

I recall we went up to Denver to hear him address the city counsel and afterward we were at a restaurant. His big arrangement of about twelve people at a table was full and we had to sit at a separate table. I tried to get his opinion on something and he just arrogantly shut me off like I was an idiot. Same thing at one of his Team Law meetings of about five people at the University in Denver law library.


Regards,

David Merrill.