
11-03-2007, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KarenM
David Merrill:
Wasn't the Credit River case overturned and declared a 'nullity' by a higher court within the state?
That being the case, what's the point in citing it?
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Why do you submit an inquiry which assumes a lack of knowledge and then add a declaratory professing that the object of inquiry is fait accompli?
When was the "case" "appealed," and to what "court" (brothel).
How, precisely, and with particularity, was "the Credit River case overturned and declared a 'nullity' by a higher court within the state?"
Exactly which "higher court within the state" "overturned and declared a 'nullity'" "the Credit River case," and what were the precise mechanics of the procedure?
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11-03-2007, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KarenM
David Merrill:
Wasn't the Credit River case overturned and declared a 'nullity' by a higher court within the state?
That being the case, what's the point in citing it?
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See attached 1933 letter;
And especially since 1938 with the blending of law and equity in the courts, attorneys are nothing more than collections agents for the US in receivership. That was the motivation for the International Bar Association (City of London) ilk making it out that a Justice of the Peace could no longer be presiding over a jury in 1968 in the territorial common law on Minnesota state.
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My only expertise is obtaining remedy.
And my LOR (that you drafted) only taught me who I am, and failed to save my home.
Hmmmm.
Maybe my realization of who I really am, in and of itself, is remedy.
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For any doubts there is ample evidence and proof even; but I enjoy the results of redeeming the legal tender by bond/Letter of Credit. Quickly there were two or three mortgage companies who fell away to reveal the true holder of the US in bankruptcy (see attachments).
Now that you got me on that again, I am going to link my new thread:
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/banks-...tml#post122570
Interestingly, the Credit River coverup you are pointing out led to a new shell game where the bank pretends another party is supplying the money for the loan, instead of the bank creating the funds for the loan off the "borrower" credit. Instead the banker acts like a credit risk processor and in turn guarantees that the company allegedly providing the funds gets first and only bid on the Note.
http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/sui...te-check_2.jpg
http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/sui...te-check_1.jpg
But mostly I find it flames Shoonra whenever I mention the Credit River Money Decision.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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11-03-2007, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by David Merrill
And now it turns out Shoonra is Bernie?
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Yep. Bernie. Check it out.
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11-03-2007, 06:31 PM
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gender-bender me...
I find it a little strange that he has been letting me bendhergender all this time.
Oh well. I am not going back and correcting all my posts. My Signature maybe if it matters...
Regards,
David Merrill.
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11-04-2007, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
Someone else has already cited UCC 1-201(24) to the effect that legal tender is money.
The difference might be that Spanish doubloons or Indian rupees are money but, in the US, not legal tender.
Federal law says that FRNs are legal tender and may be used to pay federal taxes, fees, and fines. If the federal govt accepts it as payment, why can't you?
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Nice try Shoonra, but UCC 1-201(24) does not define legal tender. I asked show me a law that defines legal tender to be money.
(24) "Money" means a medium of exchange authorized or adopted by a domestic or foreign government and includes a monetary unit of account established by an intergovernmental organization or by agreement between two or more nations.
Where is legal tender defined in the above?
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11-04-2007, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dorkenbutt
Nice try Shoonra, but UCC 1-201(24) does not define legal tender. I asked show me a law that defines legal tender to be money.
Where is legal tender defined in the above?
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dorkenbutt, That is what is called "critical reading."
Lawyers like Bernie cannot stand critical reading, unless they are the one doing it.
In fact, legal tender is not defined in the whole UCC.
Good eye!
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11-04-2007, 05:27 AM
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fool me twice; shame on me...
I was hoping that Shoonra would blunder into my snare again - but he already did several months ago and we should not hope for it again.
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Originally Posted by US v Rickman; 638 F.2d 182
In the exercise of that power Congress has declared that Federal Reserve Notes are legal tender and are redeemable in lawful money.
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Originally Posted by US v Ware; 608 F.2d 400
United States notes shall be lawful money, and a legal tender in payment of all debts, public and private, within the United States, except for duties on imports and interest on the public debt.
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The preceeding sentence holds the key:
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The aggregate of the powers granted to Congress by the Constitution includes broad and comprehensive authority over revenue, finance, and currency
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Therefore the blunder Shoonra stepped in before was to come back from the definition above with other quotes from the Supreme Court in Rickman in an attempt to redefine lawful money for the Readers here. All a court of competent jurisdiction reads out of Rickman however, should be that the Supreme Court is telling us that only Congress defines lawful money in America and in fact has many times, consistently to be US Notes, not FRNs which may be redeemed on demand in lawful money.
I mention this mrg, because it may be distracting for many readers to look elsewhere for a definition for money. Shoonra would enjoy that.
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David Merrill.
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11-04-2007, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dorkenbutt
Nice try Shoonra, but UCC 1-201(24) does not define legal tender. I asked show me a law that defines legal tender to be money.
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UCC defines money as what is accepted by the govt as money. 31 USC 5103 defines legal tender, as the currency issued by the US govt including FRNs.
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11-04-2007, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by David Merrill
I find it a little strange that he has been letting me bendhergender all this time.
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I had supposed that you were accustommed to genderbending ever since (if not before) your prison term. In any case it didn't affect the validity of my answers. And you seem incapable of learning from what I say anyway.
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11-04-2007, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
UCC defines money as what is accepted by the govt as money. 31 USC 5103 defines legal tender, as the currency issued by the US govt including FRNs.
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You like to use the term real money allot. Black's defines what real money is. Tell me, is legal tender included in the definition?
Real money. Money which has real metallic, intrinsic value as distinguished from paper currency, checks and drafts. Black's 6th, page 1264.
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