Contrails vs Chemtrails

[Freedomless]

While watching KRQE News 13 in New Mexico, the weather man made a comment about the contrails (water vapor) in the sky. He should know the difference between contails and chemtails (chemical spraying). Kirtland Air Base is located here. These military jets are spraying the skies in New Mexico on a constant basis.

The number of men and women on oxygen tanks is unbelievable. Many men and women are being diagnosed with cancer, MS, OCD, fungus, etc. Ever wonder how the flue hits all the states at the same time?

In the 2005 legislation, CHEMTRIALS are descried as "Exotic Weapons". It weighs heavy on my mind and I believe the men and women of the united States should be more concerned.

[Freedomless]

I forgot to add. There are 60,000 baby boomers retiring daily. With that many men and women retiring and no money could be a problem also.

[ezrhythm]

http://www.chycho.com/?q=Chemtrails

[David Merrill]

succinctly:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/hr2977.html

[trooper2ls]

Depending on the chemicals being used and the intended effect over an area... yes significant changes can be made over a wide area. Not only do expanding gases absorb heat, but the clouds also reflect sunlight back to space. That is 2-5 Kw per sq/Meter which adds up quick.

Now that you are disturbed by that.. here is the "other half" of the equation.

"Official Site":
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu

"Non-Official Site":
http://www.haarp.net/


I have a piece of software written by a group of Non-Americans that takes the data from publically available datasets transmitted by NOAA weather satalites and generates those prettty 3D graphic overlays that many weather forcasters use. What is different about this software is that it independently renders the images of the earth based on this data. Durning hurricane Katrina weird patterns extending SW -> NE were forming in the cloud cover overtop of the Midwest. None of the weather websites or TV graphics showed any of these patterns. After the storm struck the patterns dissapated. A few weeks later right before the big summit on the Georgia coast there was a storm headed straight for it. Again, the cloud patterns returned in a different place but the storm made an abrubt turn back out to sea. I remember the forcasters on the weather channel all skratching their heads as to why it turned "un-expectedly".

I see no reason that with computer modeling technology, heaters (HAARP), and coolers (CHEMTRAILS) could be used to have drastic effects on global weather patterns. "A butterfly flaps it's wings in Africa and a Hurricane hits the US coastline" What a convient way to increase debt.. "natural disaster" ..

I have a feeling a sleeping giant has been awakened. Nice thing is Earth will survive.. but will we?

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by trooper2ls

Depending on the chemicals being used and the intended effect over an area... yes significant changes can be made over a wide area. Not only do expanding gases absorb heat, but the clouds also reflect sunlight back to space. That is 2-5 Kw per sq/Meter which adds up quick.

Now that you are disturbed by that.. here is the "other half" of the equation.

"Official Site":
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu

"Non-Official Site":
http://www.haarp.net/


I have a piece of software written by a group of Non-Americans that takes the data from publically available datasets transmitted by NOAA weather satalites and generates those prettty 3D graphic overlays that many weather forcasters use. What is different about this software is that it independently renders the images of the earth based on this data. Durning hurricane Katrina weird patterns extending SW -> NE were forming in the cloud cover overtop of the Midwest. None of the weather websites or TV graphics showed any of these patterns. After the storm struck the patterns dissapated. A few weeks later right before the big summit on the Georgia coast there was a storm headed straight for it. Again, the cloud patterns returned in a different place but the storm made an abrubt turn back out to sea. I remember the forcasters on the weather channel all skratching their heads as to why it turned "un-expectedly".

I see no reason that with computer modeling technology, heaters (HAARP), and coolers (CHEMTRAILS) could be used to have drastic effects on global weather patterns. "A butterfly flaps it's wings in Africa and a Hurricane hits the US coastline" What a convient way to increase debt.. "natural disaster" ..

I have a feeling a sleeping giant has been awakened. Nice thing is Earth will survive.. but will we?

Which is why I pulled the Bill out of the Article:

http://www.chycho.com/?q=Chemtrails

The article in essence is complaining that the ProjectShield is not involving us in the decision making. That would obviously make ProjectShield a political process. ProjectShield only exists because science and technology understood long ago that deflecting solar radiation was not going to ever happen by political force.

Get a good ionizing filter and I suppose people might be considering surgical masks in public fashionable someday soon. If not for ProjectShield, we would probably already be suffering massive deforestations.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[psholtz]

My understanding is that you generally only find chemtrails in countries that are signatories to the Treaty on Open Skies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Open_Skies

Specifically, I've heard that they're not being seen in South America..

My understanding also is that the chemtrails consist largely of barium salts and aluminum oxide (both of which are extremely poisonous to humans). The idea seems to be to create some type of "electric grid" or "net" in the sky. Edward Teller ("father" of the H-bomb, Stanford faculty) seems to have been one of the progenitors of the idea for both chemtrails and HAARP.

[psholtz]

Originally Posted by trooper2ls

Depending on the chemicals being used and the intended effect over an area... yes significant changes can be made over a wide area. Not only do expanding gases absorb heat, but the clouds also reflect sunlight back to space. That is 2-5 Kw per sq/Meter which adds up quick.

The idea that chemtrails "cool" the earth, and reflect sunlight back up, prevent global warming, etc, is I think the line of bunk they sell to the Air Force pilots who actually fly the missions: that they are helping "save" the world b/c of these "secret" missions they are flying which they can't talk to the public about, etc.

It appeals, I think, to their "Captain America" sense of heroism.

Or at least, it's probably designed to do so.

Nevertheless, I don't think chemtrails cool much of anything.

Quite the opposite, in fact.

Days when I notice chemtrail spraying are usually much warmer, sometimes markedly so, than days when the skies are clear (or have "normal" cloudcover).

Don't have any hard evidence, but it's a general trend I've noticed.

[psholtz]

I just got a huge new shipment of Don Bell Reports in, and have started indexing them up on my Web site:

http://www.paulsholtz.com/donbell/

Those marked "work in progress" have not yet been scanned in.

I'm posting this here, though, since there are a few of interest as concerns HAARP and chemtrails, etc.. Don Bell was writing about this stuff (and about artificial earthquakes, airquakes, weather control and mind control) back in 1978!

http://www.paulsholtz.com/donbell/db25_32.html
http://www.paulsholtz.com/donbell/db25_47.html