
02-25-2008, 09:38 AM
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Trooper, I appreciate what you are trying to say and your point is noted.
Sometimes, there comes a time when what should be said...should be said. All of that rhetoric is taking away precious time for the people, THE PEOPLE, that need it.
The state of our nation is about to fall and it won't be graceful. Politically correct will not be available much less possible. I am done with it. Just get to the point.
Something else....if I need to be told the truth about me...I can take it as long as it is the truth. I am vying for perfection in all imperfect ways.
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02-25-2008, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
Further evidence of DiM's shallow and slipshod thinking. I did not say that the IRS was "immune" to lawsuit, only that it could not be sued in its own name (but must be sued in the name of the govt generally) -- lawsuits against the IRS shoud be captioned "v. United States". There are plenty of such lawsuits against the IRS every year, so you can sure the IRS is not immune to suit.
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Still seems odd, though, don't you think?
My suit isn't against the "United States".. it's against the "IRS"..
Where I was going w/ my previous questioning, though, was to see whether or not *any* federal agency that does business under EIN 72-0564834 follows a similar protocol.. This would include IRS, US Marshalls, Dept of Agriculture, etc..
What say you?
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02-25-2008, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
Further evidence of DiM's shallow and slipshod thinking. I did not say that the IRS was "immune" to lawsuit, only that it could not be sued in its own name (but must be sued in the name of the govt generally) -- lawsuits against the IRS shoud be captioned "v. United States". There are plenty of such lawsuits against the IRS every year, so you can sure the IRS is not immune to suit.
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Further evidence of Shoonra spin.
The IRS and the Fed are an independent private corporation. The only thing making it an Instrumentality of the US at all is that its stock certificates, the FRNs in your pocket for example, are designed to depreciate in value over time.
To follow what I am saying, we used to note the clerk would change the summons on the Libel of Review, when naming the Secretary to 60 days from the 21 days. The clerk was under the impression that the Secretary of the Treasury is a government employee. So I simply proved that the Secretary is not paid by the US but by the UN, the Institution paying the Secretary as Governor for the International Monetary Fund is the IMF/UN. So the clerk of court stopped fudging up process after that.
It is to the benefit of the IRS that you misname it United States.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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02-25-2008, 11:45 AM
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Applause ....
Great point David. I guess only the newbies, black ops and morons think you are a total nut.
I got a call last week from a former employer (major international bank who shall remain un-named) with a request to come out of retirement and tidy up and update some systems for them. Most of my career was spent in executive boardrooms meeting with top bank executives and public policy makers going over details of operational requirements and creating system specifications based on those meetings.
All the states have to send reports to Washington D.C. Washington D.C. has to send reports to the (GAO). Take a look at your state Comptroller's Annual Report to the Governor of your state. You can find it in the library located in the city of the corporate state capital. Look under "Trust Fund" for each state sub-corporation like the state courts, IRS, Banks, Education, etc. you will be amazed at the amount of money being pumped into the Trust Fund from the various Corporate State Departmental Revenues (all revenue is referred to as taxes: fines, fees, licenses, etc.). There are millions and billions of your hard earned worthless federal reserve notes, "dollars", being held in "trust." This money is being siphoned off into the coffers of the International Bankers while the corporate government officials are hounding you for more and more tax dollars.
As a systems analyst I have to know and understand the policy to be able to program system infrastructure and reports. Before I retired I didn't think to copy some of those priceless inside policy manuals for future use because I knew what was in them. This time, I will make copies. It will make for great little nuggets to attach to some of my future posts.
..J
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02-25-2008, 01:24 PM
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Indeed nuggets.
I recall editing treaties for phone companies for a while. That sounds like what you are doing but more in soft and firmware than reporting.
I hope to read some of those nuggets around here soon Trooper.
Here is a cool nugget for you all in the meantime. Remember I told you about the suitor who subpoenaed the corporation into common law (attachment 1)? He served Deutsche Bank on the 16th, and attended the hearing on the 22nd as scheduled to find out that his home had been foreclosed on the 17th; the day after service! He mentioned Robert Erler's indictment - that he had not even published his oath of office at the clerk and recorder's like the state constitution required, and they backpaddled pretty quickly. (attachments 2,3,4)
Lawdog and Shoonra, with their spin-myths about admiralty jurisdiction above the high-tide mark should get a kick out of attachment 5. Take a look and see.
Regards,
David Merrill.
Last edited by David Merrill : 02-25-2008 at 02:26 PM.
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