Commercial Drivers License

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

Yeah, ask some bar-attorneys, a few accountants, a heap of psychologists, add a dash of medical doctor and make sure they all have pointy heads. If they wear glasses that means they are even smarter.

You can be sure these will all be COMPLETELY dis-interested. As we have been told here before "let them decide".

'trust me, I'm from the government'...

[ezrhythm]

Originally Posted by fulltitle

Without Prejudice.
If you consider what a CDL or DL is and if you consider that CDLs or DLs tend to be issued by Revenue-oriented agencies then it all might make sense. And if a SSN is attatched....

In Kahleefahnia the DMV is an arm of the STATE TAX BOARD.

[ezrhythm]

Originally Posted by Str8Shooter033

Also, I sent via Cert. Mail a set of "ammended" tax forms like the "W-4T", W-8 BEN, and an I-9 stating I was an American National, and they held them but said that they couldnt accept them.

Here is a site that verifies that a W8-BEN is for, "certification that backup withholding is not necessary even though the signatory may not be supplying a TIN."
http://www.bankersonline.com/complia...mp022403k.html
Hope this helps with your employer.

And here is verification that the form is an actual IRS form;
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw8ben.pdf

[KarenM]

Is it too difficult to post the entire contents of a site to which you refer, or do you just want to post that which supports your fantasies?

Question: When a new customer is not a resident or is a resident alien opens an account, we normally require them to complete a W8-BEN to claim foreign status and prevent us from reporting interest earned on the account. If they open an account that does not pay interest, are they still required to complete a W8-BEN?

Answer: In essence, W8-BEN's are a certification that interest reporting and backup withholding are not necessary even though the signatory may not be supplying a TIN. You are not required to obtain W8-BEN's on non interest bearing accounts - they do not generate interest reporting and, thus, cannot generate backup withholding.

However, my recommendation has always been to obtain a W-8 or W-9 equivalent on every account you open:

1 - the non-interest bearing status of the account can often be changed after it is opened,
2 - the W8-BEN contains information regarding the NRA's country of origin and, most compelling of all,
3 - on some forms, its just easier to train people to always obtain them rather than try to get them to remember when they need it and when they do not.

[indio007]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

Actual experts? You mean like people who are actual lawyers, and know and understand the law?

Surely you jest, KarenM. You know that all lawyers are just pawns of the Satanists/Jews/Freemasons/Illuminati/insert your favorite whipping boy here.

LOL

Don't you mean legal system and not law. Granted the vast majority of the people have contracted into the legal system via the creation of a legal persona thus subjecting themselves to law within a legal framework. The contract is the law.
You can cite cases based on a legal framework all day. It only applies to that particular condition.

However the legal system is not the only law and process . It is a copyrighted business venture incorporated for the purpose of monetizing and skimming funds from the true sovereign parties of interest in any given dispute by means of their respective slave legal personas. Courts prey on human misery as cases are accompanied by acute stress by the parties involved. In comes the lawyer, whose purpose is to financially gain by leaching onto the court process on behalf of one side or another. What is the lawyers usefulness to the now "client" . The only function I see is to make sure the client runs through a pre-programed legal maze and make sure he don't escape.

Client: Lets do blah blah.
Attorney: Well I don't know I don't believe the law will allow that.
Client: Do you mean it's unlawful?
Attorney: No it's not unlawful , but legal precedent such as case blah blah ruled it won't work.

The attorney has set up the fence in which he will confine has clients defense or offense within it. An attorney will not venture out of the legal walls and he will not let his client. Regardless of weather a framework other than a legal one applies.

It is no different than binding arbitration . You have agreed to play by rules a third party invented and to resolve you dispute within it.

[ezrhythm]

Originally Posted by indio007

Don't you mean legal system...

EXACTLY!!!

[ezrhythm]

Originally Posted by KarenM

Is it too difficult to post the entire contents of a site to which you refer...

Woe to those who are here to nit pick irrelevance and perpetuate the deception!

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

Actual experts? You mean like people who are actual lawyers, and know and understand the law?

Surely you jest, KarenM. You know that all lawyers are just pawns of the Satanists/Jews/Freemasons/Illuminati/insert your favorite whipping boy here.

LOL

Without Prejudice.
Actually according to a Mason or Knights Templar type, the Illuminati (Catholic aligned according to some) tried to wipe out the Masons and the Templars. So the notion of a alliance between Illuminati and Masons might be errant according to Masons.

Originally Posted by ezrhythm

In Kahleefahnia the DMV is an arm of the STATE TAX BOARD.

And the DL# is maybe a tax ID.

However the legal system is not the only law and process . It is a copyrighted business venture incorporated for the purpose of monetizing and skimming funds from the true sovereign parties of interest in any given dispute by means of their respective slave legal personas.

Or maybe they are presuming willingness or incompetence. If Booth A is for Effing Idiots and those who go to it then they presume that they must been one of the types its for. If you are a sovereign then maybe you would have not gone to Booth A. Perhaps what is afoot is a type of filtration/separation process.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by KarenM

Is it too difficult to post the entire contents of a site to which you refer, or do you just want to post that which supports your fantasies?

What "fantasies" does the re-venue you and your "service" (provided at the barrel of a gun) "collect" "support?"
Some "fantasies."

[mrg]

Originally Posted by KarenM

Before you commit to any particular course of action, I suggest that you get advice from other disinterested people instead of putting all of your eggs in one basket with the experts at Sui Juris.

Hey Andy:

The "experts?"

That would be, perhaps, you, "mert," "notarial distress," "Shoonra," and, certainly, of course, the ubiquitous "lawdog?"

Good advice you gave there, considering those "experts at Sui Juris."