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Old 12-22-2004, 03:15 PM
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Why do parents lie?

It is that time of the year, when people running around in a frenzy - seemingly desperate to consume every drop of credit they can.

Give your kids the gift of ignorance this year - only $9.99 provides them with the proof they need. Santa really exists! What a load of crock!

Where did this whole Santa thing get started, and why do people feel the need to mislead, deceive, obfuscate, and outright lie to their kids?

http://www.santa-letters.net/

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Old 12-22-2004, 03:51 PM
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I think a politician started this tripe

early conditioning?

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Old 12-22-2004, 05:10 PM
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RE: Why Parents Lie

Greetings,

It is nice to know that I am not alone. I suspect one reason many parents lie to their kids is because, for so many years, they have been lied to by secular churchs sucking up to secular government ... the MERCHANTS of the earth.

Below are a couple of informative sites regarding the origins of Christmas and Santa. At the ecclesia site, click on "miscellaneous" and scroll down to "Holidays".

http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/Extern...& URL=/truth/

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=29995
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Old 12-22-2004, 09:41 PM
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Ummm, SJ...

Is it because we have "acceptable lies" (those that are supposed to "cause no harm")?

Or is it because parents follow the lead of our "leaders"? I mean, "they" lie--all the time. Clearly, in this nation and culture, telling the "truth" is the least of all virtues....

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Old 12-23-2004, 07:58 AM
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Ummm, SJ...

Is it because we have "acceptable lies" (those that are supposed to "cause no harm")?

Or is it because parents follow the lead of our "leaders"? I mean, "they" lie--all the time. Clearly, in this nation and culture, telling the "truth" is the least of all virtues....

Randy

Randy, I think you are right - it is twofold. It is an "acceptable lie", because everyone else is doing it. But the actual reason they do it is because they are just to cowardly to go against the social norm.

After all, how could you take the joy of christmas away from a child by telling them that old saint nick is just a fable? Or the tooth fairy, or some other "friendly" superhuman character?

What would society say if parents went to their kids rooms at night to tell them the boogieman, ghosts, vampires, and all other forms of monsterous evils are in fact real and lurking under the bed and in the closet?

Funny how people let society dictate what their child should and should not believe.
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Old 12-23-2004, 09:31 PM
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Mmmm. Funny you should mention that "monsters under the bed thing."

Our older daughter used to would never, ever get into bed until after she looked UNDER the bed 'cause "someone" had told her monsters lived there and would come out and get her in the middle of the night....

Who would do such a bad thing?

But, yes, granted these "lies" are relatively harmless, but they can be the very beginnings of what becomes an almost innate distrust of "authority figures."

So from that point-of-view? Well, maybe our parents did a good thing by lying to us?

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Old 12-24-2004, 05:35 AM
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Randy,

I only wish it had that effect on everyone, we would have a lot more people on our side if that held true in every case.

I myself was not fed the santa bit, but here I am... go figure ;)
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Old 12-24-2004, 06:18 AM
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i don't teach my children about santa, instead i teach them what Christmas really means and why we do it.
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Old 12-24-2004, 08:09 AM
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I think some of these lies, stem from a combination of ignorance, convenience, and tradition !

The Mother of my children would tell my sons things like:

"Don't go into the woods, there are monsters and big black dogs that will eat you." and

"don't eat too much candy, or you will have worms coming out of your butt !" lol

My youngest son, started having nightmares, to the point where I would put him to bed every night, and say:

"Son, There are no Monsters !"

He would repeat it with me and after several weeks, it became a joke, and we'd laugh. (I eventually added, "there are only bad people".)

My ex, was #5 of 6 kids. Her Mother, only made it to the 8th grade, and her dad, who lost his Dad at age 7, only made it to the 2nd grade.

When I told her there was NO WAY for kids to get worms from candy... she actually seemed surprized !! lol

Amazing how this type of thing takes on a life of it's own...
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Old 12-24-2004, 08:16 AM
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Ironic, isn't it? We were all (okay, most all of us) taught about critters like the "Boogey Man." We grow to learn he isn't real, then we encounter IRS, BB, corporate America, and bureaucrats, and lo and behold, the Boogey Man IS very much alive.......

We have more dragons to slay than King Arthur ever imagined.

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