More 911 Evidence of Inside Job

[BOBT12]

More interesting news,

A new eyewitness who was working in the WTC on 9/11 has gone on record to describe how he heard multiple grenade-like explosions around the basement levels of the north tower, backing up William Rodriguez' story, the WTC janitor who reported explosions before the first plane hit the tower.
Anthony Saltalamacia was a morning supervisor who managed over a hundred workers in the twin towers. He worked closely with WTC janitor William Rodriguez, eyewitness to sub-level explosions that occurred before the impact of the first plane in the north tower and representative for many 9/11 victim's families.
Saltalamacchia was in sub-basement B1 of the North Tower, approximately 1,100 feet below the airplane's impact point at floors 93 to 98.

http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/...explosions.htm

[brozer5]

avoided IMPEACHMENT shortly after 9/11 when the
undeniable facts came out that

1. All our airliners/ civil aircraft were
GROUNDED.

2. Bush allowed 141 Saudis ( many related to Osama)
to FLEE this country! Many by private jet.

3. What do cops do? They immediately harass and intimidate everybody the alleged perp is RELATED to or ever KNEW in an effort to locate the suspect.

4. LOOKS like OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE to me.

[Shoonra]

I don't think that #1 was necessarily a bad idea, much less grounds for impeachment.

I see a conflict between #2 and #3, but I do feel that #2 was definitely a bad move on Bush's part, especially because people much less likely to he in contact with Osama were rounded up and sent to Gitmo.

I don't see an obstruction of justice here, but I do see it in, e.g., Bush's announcement that his minions would ignore Congressional subpoenae and he would order the Dept of Justice not to enforce the law against them. I also see impeachable offenses in the commencement and handling of the Iraq War, his refusal to faithfully execute some of the laws that he signed, enormous evidence of influence peddling and kick-backs, etc.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

I don't think that #1 was necessarily a bad idea, much less grounds for impeachment.

I see a conflict between #2 and #3, but I do feel that #2 was definitely a bad move on Bush's part, especially because people much less likely to he in contact with Osama were rounded up and sent to Gitmo.

I don't see an obstruction of justice here, but I do see it in, e.g., Bush's announcement that his minions would ignore Congressional subpoenae and he would order the Dept of Justice not to enforce the law against them. I also see impeachable offenses in the commencement and handling of the Iraq War, his refusal to faithfully execute some of the laws that he signed, enormous evidence of influence peddling and kick-backs, etc.

Wow! Your views are on target. The people may have a chance, if we can unite around these issues.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

Every little theory about a 9-11 conspiracy gets more and more convoluted as it has to work its way around inconvenient facts. Every time a new layer of theory is piled on, the number of people who participated in the conspiracy must double, at least.

Actually, it is the 9/11 Commission Report which is the convoluted theory. 132 Professors; 101 Sr. Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, & Government Officials; 72 Entertainment & Media Professionals; 106 Survivors & Family Members, [based on Global Outlook, Issue #12: Worldwide Explosion of Disbelief in 9/11 'Official Story',] www.GlobalOutlook.ca question the bogus report. 9/11 was an inside job.

[mrg]

What inconvenient "facts?"

The "passport" that "survived" and was "recovered?"

Those "facts?"

[International American]

Most people with a half a brain know that 9/11 was an inside job but it was also connected to Israel. After all, WHO BENEFITED? There were several Israeli's who were arrested while cheering the attacks. Basically Israel needs the US to fight wars against it's enemies like Iraq, Syria and Iran etc. Also, the 9/11 OMISSION report completely ignored the collapse of WTC 7, a 47 story building which was hit by NOTHING! The BBC reported it about 15 mins BEFORE it happened! Also, OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! The assassinated Pakistani leader Benazir Bhutto made this claim in an interview with Sir David Frost, a highly respected British journalist on the Arab Al-Jazeera TV network. (Serach YouTube) It looks like that most of the world knows that Americans are totally clueless on what's happening in the world but then again, what do u expect when we have a totally controlled media which serves it's International Zionist masters instead of "We The People"...

[Shoonra]

The country that benefitted most from 9-11 was PAKISTAN. It had been, for years, on various State Dept blacklists for supporting terrorism, nuclear proliferation, war with India, military dictatorship, etc. Suddenly, with the enemy identified as being in Afghanistan, the Bush Administration decided it "needed" Paki cooperation, and instantly took Pakistan off all the blacklists, ignored its various offenses, AND paid it a fortune for the dubious privilege of using part of its Army (evidently the invalided part, considering how useless they've been). It even allowed Pakistan to veto the use of two countries that had immediately volunteered to send lots of troops to fight Osama, namely Israel and India. It might have made more sense to use India as a base against Afghanistan, and make it clear to Pakistan that either it support this coalition or else it would be treated as a cobelligerent with Afghanistan.

Israel, on the other hand, got fairly little. It had not had any trouble from Afghanistan and little from Pakistan. It had not even had problems with Iraq since Desert Storm. But with all the US forces tied up in Afghanistan and Iraq, there'd be none available to help Israel if it were attacked by, say, Syria.

As for the story of "five dancing Israelis", the actual facts are a lot less intriguing. Hours AFTER the first airplane crash, they were seen, mostly sitting, on top of a van in a parking lot on the New Jersey shore, taking turns videotaping the smouldering skyline of Manhattan behind each other. This meant that they were about 5 miles from Ground Zero and actually had no view of the WTC since it had already collapsed and other buildings blocked the view of the ground. By that time, of course, nearly everyone within that radius of the WTC with a camera or camcorder had taken some pictures.
They were arrested, their videotape was examined, as was their truck, it was discovered that the only suspicious thing about them was that they had overstayed their tourist visas and gotten jobs illegally (for a moving company). The FBI cleared them of any accusations related to the WTC and they were deported. In fact, the last I heard - about four years ago - was that they were filing a libel suit against LeRoi Jones (then the NJ Poet Laureate) for suggesting in a poem (so offensive that the State of NJ dumped him as its PL) that these five had foreknowledge of the attack.
{I might add that the Israeli intelligences services are supposed to be very good, and I would expect that their operatives would, if they had foreknowledge of something, not be so very amateurishly conspicuous nor at such a useless distance.}

There have been a number of Arab terrorists, over the years, who were reported (from sympathetic sources) to be either dead or dying -- to discourage active pursuit -- and later turned up alive and very active. Osama has been a remarkably healthy corpse in that respect.

[rottweiler]

Two jets hit two buldings and three buildings fall. Duh!

[Shoonra]

Duh yourself. More than 3 buildings were ruined by the attack.

WTC6, the US Customs House, a 7-story building between Tower 1 (the north tower) and WTC7 was severely damaged by the debris from the collapse of WTC1 (and possibly also WTC2) -- the debris, some of its flaming, fell so hard on WTC6 that it wrecked the upper floors and caused a crater at the base of WTC6 that threatened to cause a cave-in; WTC6 was beyond repair and had to be demolished. Its tenant offices included the US Depts of Commerce/Agriculture/Labor, BATF, and the Export-Import Bank.

WTC5, northwest of WTC1, was a 9-story office building, similarly damaged by debris; everything above the third floor was wrecked and the entire buildinghad to be demolished. Among its tenant businesses were United & American Airlines, the NY State Court of Claims, and several investment firms

The Deutsche Bank Building. across the street from WTC2 (the south tower), a 40-story building (also known as the Bankers Trust Plaza), was severely damaged by debris from WTC2. that slashed through 24 floors down to the lobby. Although it appears that all the offices inside the Deutsche Bank Bldg were evacuated prior to the WTC2 collapse, hundreds of bone fragments were discovered on the roof and in the rubble - presumably from victims inside WTC2 and the UA jet. After a protracted argument between the owners and the insurers over whether the building could be repaired, it was decided to demolish it completely.

WTC7, across the street from WTC6, was a 47-story office building. It had been constructed over a Con Edison power station and its basement contained diesel fuel tanks for Con Ed. The fire and collapse of WTC1 dropped a great deal of flaming debris on WTC7, damaging the roof and starting fires throughout the building. The building was evacuated and the FDNY attempted to put out the fires, its efforts compromised by a serious failure of the water supply caused by the collapse, as well as the unusual design of WTC7 and the diesel fuel stored inside and the other fire and rescue operations at the WTC complex. FDNY equipment similar to surveyor transits showed, by early afternoon, that the building's walls were starting to sag, and a decision was made to give up efforts to save the building. The roof began to split and the building collapsed around 5:20 pm, approx 6 hours after the two towers collapsed, and at least an hour after the FDNY ceased its efforts to save the building.

There was a major insurance lawsuit -- Industrial Risk Insurers v. Port Authority of NY and NJ (SDNY Jan. 26, 2005) 387 F.Supp.2d 299 -- in which the insurance company contended that the owners had been grossly negligent (and thereby undeserving of an insurance payout) in allowing Con Ed to store twelve thousand gallons of diesel fuel in the basement which, it said, "intensified the fires that engulfed Building number 7 and made them impossible to extinguish." The court noted that FEMA said the building collapsed "due to the failure of critical, non-redundant transfer trusses that were subjected to significant and prolonged fire heating fed by the diesel fuel". The insurer was aware of this diesel storage and the generators that would use it in emergencies, etc., and therefore the insurance company could not refuse to pay. At no time did the insurance company suggest, although more than $75 Million was at stake, that WTC7 collapsed due to anything other than the fire caused by WTC1 debris as described in the official reports.

I don't how the damage to other buildings proves anything about who hijacked the planes. Presumably if WTC7 was brought down by some conspiracy, the conspirators would have included the FDNY and the conspirators would not have waited 6 hours to bring down WTC7.

As a test of your theory, I suggest you walk into any FDNY fire station and tell the crew there that they were complicit in a conspiracy that killed 300 of their own FDNY comrades and nearly 3000 civilians. Let us know what happened when you get out of Intensive Care.