More 911 Evidence of Inside Job

[Shoonra]

David Griffin's claim about Barbara Olsen's phone calls has been effectively debunked. For example, in Screw Loose Change, for Oct. 1, 2007:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com...1_archive.html

It may well be that Barbara Olsen didn't have her own cellphone with her, or that she had it but it didn't work, but Ted Olsen was guessing about whose phone she was using, perhaps another passenger's. As for no calls at all, the clear identification of calls made from that plane was not possible and no effort has been made to investigate whether a call from any source was received at Ted Olsen's office at the times indicated.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

David Griffin's claim about Barbara Olsen's phone calls has been effectively debunked. For example, in Screw Loose Change, for Oct. 1, 2007:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com...1_archive.html

It may well be that Barbara Olsen didn't have her own cellphone with her, or that she had it but it didn't work, but Ted Olsen was guessing about whose phone she was using, perhaps another passenger's. As for no calls at all, the clear identification of calls made from that plane was not possible and no effort has been made to investigate whether a call from any source was received at Ted Olsen's office at the times indicated.

This bloger seems to have a screw loose. How did he debunk Dr. David Ray Griffin? Why wasn't this matter investigated?

Remember Ted Olsen is not a good witness, due to his close ties to the Bush administration, and as he stated:

Originally Posted by Sydney Morning Herald, March 20, 2002

[T]hat there are many situations in which "government officials might quite legitimately have reasons to give false information out."

As you see, he is an admitted liar, and feels that it is his duty to lie to the public. An "Operation 9/11" type event would likey be such a legitimate situation. Many people in government have no problem with telling lies, Richard (I am not a crook) Nixon, and Bill (BJ) Clinton come to mind.

Originally Posted by Aime Cesair, Discourse on Colonialism, 1955

The colonists may kill in Indochina, torture in Madagascar, imprison in Black Africa, crack down in the West Indies. Henceforth the colonized know that they have an advantage over them. They know that their temporary "masters" are lying.

By the way, the calls on Flight 93 could not have been made as the government claimed. This was investigated in some detail. Just more lies from Big (evil) Brother.

[rottweiler]

At the Moussaoui trial an FBI-report showed that there was never any connection between Barbara Olsen and her husband.

Is Olsen lying or is the FBI lying? Why did Olsen make up a story about phone calls at a press conference he arranged announcing the death of his wife?

Originally Posted by Shoonra

David Griffin's claim about Barbara Olsen's phone calls has been effectively debunked. For example, in Screw Loose Change, for Oct. 1, 2007:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com...1_archive.html

It may well be that Barbara Olsen didn't have her own cellphone with her, or that she had it but it didn't work, but Ted Olsen was guessing about whose phone she was using, perhaps another passenger's. As for no calls at all, the clear identification of calls made from that plane was not possible and no effort has been made to investigate whether a call from any source was received at Ted Olsen's office at the times indicated.

[rottweiler]

But on September 14, Olson said on Hannity & Colmes (Fox News) that she had called collect and therefore must have been using the “airplane phone”---because, he surmised, “she somehow didn’t have access to her credit cards.”2 On CNN’s Larry King Show later that same day, however, Olson returned to his first version. After saying that the second call from her suddenly went dead, he surmised that this was perhaps “because the signals from cell phones coming from airplanes don’t work that well.”3 On that same day, moreover, Tony Mauro, the Supreme Court correspondent for American Lawyer Media, published an account saying that Barbara Olson “was calling on her cell phone from aboard the jet.”4 Two months later, however, Ted Olson returned to the second version of his story. In the “Barbara K. Olson Memorial Lecture” delivered to the Federalist Society, he said that she used “a telephone in the airplane to [make] those two telephone [calls].”5 This second version was repeated in March 2002. “[C]alling collect,” he told the London Daily Telegraph, his wife “us[ed] the phone in the passengers’ seats.” She called collect, he again surmised, because “she didn’t have her purse” and hence her credit card.6
http://truthorlies.org/911trutharticle023.html

[Shoonra]

Ted Olsen's confusion, or even invention, about his wife's calls does not show that 9-11 was an inside job.
In fact, the Massouai prosecution went ahead without mentioning the Olsen phone calls.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

Ted Olsen's confusion, or even invention, about his wife's calls does not show that 9-11 was an inside job.
In fact, the Massouai prosecution went ahead without mentioning the Olsen phone calls.

Yes, this is just one more nail in the government's fairy tale.

[rottweiler]

Yes it does. The calls started the ball rolling that middle eastern guys with boxcutters were responsible. Next thing you know Bin Laden is being blamed.

Originally Posted by Shoonra

Ted Olsen's confusion, or even invention, about his wife's calls does not show that 9-11 was an inside job.
In fact, the Massouai prosecution went ahead without mentioning the Olsen phone calls.

[Shoonra]

Actually, even before the stories on all the calls were in, Logan Airport had been closed and the travellers and employees sent home ...... and among the cars remaining in the parking lot were those of the hijackers, and containing Bin Laden propaganda, instructions for suicide missions, papers about piloting jets, and the like.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

Actually, even before the stories on all the calls were in, Logan Airport had been closed and the travellers and employees sent home ...... and among the cars remaining in the parking lot were those of the hijackers, and containing Bin Laden propaganda, instructions for suicide missions, papers about piloting jets, and the like.

Why would the suicide "terrorists" be so foolish as to bring all this incriminating evidence to the airport and leave in a car they had no plans of returning to? Assuming they were this foolish, why didn't they take the stuff with them on the plane? This sounds like a setup as a part of "Operation 9/11".

Let's not forget about other oddities regarding these so-called terrorists: The passenger list which do not include the 19 Arabs named as responsible...9/11 suspects found alive.

Further, if the intel was so good, why doesn't the FBI charge Osama (Usama) Bin Laden with the 9/11 attacks?

Originally Posted by Global Outlook

There's nothing about his (Osama (Usama) Bin Laden) being wanted for murder or attacks INSIDE the United States which is what 9/11 is all about. According to Executive Editor Fred Barnes of The Weekly Standard President Bush told him recently (on September 13, 2006 in a meeting in the Oval Office) that capturing Osama Bin Laden is not "a paramount goal of the war on terror."

"The American Empire? An oxymoron.

A compelling lust for political, economic and military hegemony over the rest of the world, divorced from moral considerations? Suggesting that to Americans is akin to telling them of one's UFO abduction, except that they're more likely to believe the abduction story." -William Blum, Rogue State, 2000

[Shoonra]

There's not much incentive for suicide bombers to hide their tracks. In fact, leaving evidence for the authorities is one way to provide incentive to make sure they go ahead with the suicide.

In the case of the Sept 11th hijackings, it is possible - I think probable - that only the pilot hijackers, not the thugs left in the passenger cabin, knew it was a suicide mission. The thugs were apparently told to take their wills with them, they may have been told they'd land safely and hold the passengers for ransom.

Besides the phone calls from passengers, in at least one instance the hijackers mistakening used the pilot to tower communication system when they intended to use the passenger cabin speaker system, so that air traffic controllers heard at least one hijacker's voice. I think there was another instance of a traffic controller in brief radio contact with another hijacker. So there are living witnesses to the Arabic accents.