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Old 09-26-2005, 02:18 PM
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I do not know if this story has been verified, but if it is true it will blow 9/11 wide open. I sure hope it is. Any one know if this story is true? http://tomflocco.com/fs/OlsenArrested.htm This was posted 4 days ago on Tom Flocco's site.
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Old 01-21-2006, 02:34 PM
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Smile New info from Freedom Force

This is from the Freedom Force International newsletter. It is very interesting to me that a Federal Judge decided that U.S. citizens cannot sue a sitting president. Perhaps we need the J.A.I.L more than ever!


DID BUSH ORDER THE ATTACK ON 9/11
FOR POLITICAL ADVANTAGE?
Attorney for victims of 9/11 files class action law suit
claims hard evidence to prove the unthinkable.

Posted 2006 January 17
Stanley Hilton is the attorney for several hundred survivors and families of victims who are convinced that President George W. Bush and key members of his administration planned and ordered the multiple terrorist attacks on 9/11. They believe that the motive was to justify the establishment of a dictatorship in the United States and militarily capture control of oil reserves in the Middle East. For several years, gathered documentary evidence and depositions from witnesses that he claims proves the case beyond any reasonable doubt.
The following link will download our edited version of an interview of Mr. Hilton conducted by radio talk-show host, Alex Jones. The date on the sound file indicates that it was created on September 12, 2004. The purpose of our edit was to omit commercials and repetition. It runs for approximately 29 minutes; and, even though it is not a current broadcast, it is worth your time.
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Please understand that placing this story on our web site does not mean that we endorse Mr. Hilton's allegation. To date, he has not published the documents or depositions to which he refers, so we have no way of knowing whether they are authentic, or convincing, or even if they exist at all. It should also be noted that we do not necessarily endorse the views expressed by the show's host, Alex Jones. Regardless of all that, however, by any measure this is a big news story, and we believe that subscribers to Unfiltered News are entitled to know about it so they can make their own evaluation.
Incidentally, Hilton's case was eventually thrown out of federal court, the judge ruling that US citizens do not have any right to sue a sitting President, based on the 'Doctrine of Sovereign Immunity'. However, the Court of Public Opinion is still in session.
Download the audio interview here. This may take a moment depending on the speed of your Internet connection.

also: http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/091204hilton.htm
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What would Jesus do concerning the events of 911? Kill 1,118,000 innocent and unassociated people? Ignorance or Apathy: which one are you?

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Old 01-28-2006, 09:03 PM
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A Media Player presentation

From Freedom Force International concerning 9/11:

http://m1e.net/c?40937096-fGPEvW5OuD...-QsiRLAXqX9UTY
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What would Jesus do concerning the events of 911? Kill 1,118,000 innocent and unassociated people? Ignorance or Apathy: which one are you?
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Old 02-06-2006, 06:06 PM
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Yet More Info - 9-11 Inside Job!

Professor Steven E. Jones is quite a revelation.

It appears that Professor Jones, and associates, are doing great things toward piercing the public's slugglishness about sternly evaluating the 9-11 issue. I hope that they will continue.

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Jones presented a long list of solid evidences that must be brought before the American people and arraigned in a court to bring the conspirators to justice who perpetrated 9/11 from the inside for nefarious purposes.

Consider the facts that he and the 50+ academicians he is working with are bringing forward, not the propaganda that has been hoisted upon us. http://www.st911.org

Those towers were felled by pre-positioned U.S. military-grade explosives, that would have taken just ten men ten trips to put in place, for a controlled demolition, in the week-end prior to 9/11, when the buildings were evacuated for dozens of hours, and the power shut down to the buildings, giving the agents plenty of time to position their explosives where they would do the job, without detection by security cameras. FEMA, the national police contingent, just happened to be in NYC by the hundreds, in preparation for a "drill" scheduled for Sept. 12.
emphasis added.
http://www.st911.org/

Perhaps the truth of 9-11 will be made known to all. Maybe folks will stop asking criminals for phantom protection, and be set free.

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Scholars for 911 truth, headed by Professor Jones, is starting to make some great headway
http://www.st911.org/

I mean, it's starting to get published in the Mainstream Media. From the Miami Herald
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0201-28.htm

Jones recently gave a presentation, and an overview can be found here
http://www.gnn.tv/blogs/12675/Prof_J...nar_Feb_1_2006

mp3 of it is here
http://www.911truthseekers.org/uploa...ptember_11.mp3


I highly encourage everyone to download and listen to this clip.
http://famguardian.org/forums/index....t=45#entry2221

Once again, thank you Rattler.
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Old 02-06-2006, 06:33 PM
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Professor Steven E. Jones is quite a revelation.

It appears that Professor Jones, and associates, are doing great things toward piercing the public's slugglishness about sternly evaluating the 9-11 issue. I hope that they will continue.

emphasis added.
http://www.st911.org/

Perhaps the truth of 9-11 will be made known to all. Maybe folks will stop asking criminals for phantom protection, and be set free.


http://famguardian.org/forums/index....t=45#entry2221

Once again, thank you Rattler.

great post, bob

And btw, the word is "foisted"

keep it going.
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Corporate Media Willfully Ignores Charlie Sheen's Challenge

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The London Observer carried an article in this week's edition by movie critic Mark Kermode which again wholesale refused to address any of the evidence that Charlie Sheen had raised to clarify his stance on 9/11.

Charlie Sheen is an actor who has exhaustively researched 9/11. Mark Kermode is a movie critic who, judging from his pathetic hit piece, has swallowed without question what the US government told him happened on 9/11 without one iota of independent investigation.

Kermode alludes to the tired old argument that believing the government was involved in the attack enables people to sleep better at night because it brings a sense of order to a chaotic world.

This echoes syndicated columnist Betsy Hart's ravings, who said that people who think anyone else but Al-Qaeda was involved are just afraid to face the frightening reality of Muslim hordes who want to kill us.

Both hit pieces completely miss the boat on two fronts.

a) Charlie Sheen never claimed to know who was behind the attack, he simply raised unanswered questions brought about as a result of researching the official version of events and discovering that it was an impossibility.

b) Neither piece addresses one single shred of evidence that Charlie Sheen raised in either his first or second interview on The Alex Jones Show, even after Charlie Sheen issued an invitation that the establishment media challenge him on the facts...
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http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/..._challenge.htm

Mass media still at work to hiding the truth.
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Old 04-29-2006, 07:26 PM
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http://www.rense.com/general69/ism.htm

International Terrorism
Does Not Exist

By General Leonid Ivashov
1-22-6


General Leonid Ivashov was the Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces when the September 11, 2001, attacks took place. This military man, who lived the events from the inside, offers an analysis which is very different to that of his American colleagues. As he did during the Axis for Peace 2005 conference, he now explains that international terrorism does not exist and that the September 11 attacks were the result of a set-up. What we are seeing is a manipulation by the big powers; this terrorism would not exist without them. He affirms that, instead of faking a "world war on terror", the best way to reduce that kind of attacks is through respect for international law and peaceful cooperation among countries and their citizens.

General Leonid Ivashov (left) at the Axis for Peace Conference 2005 in Brussels, with Webster Tarpley

As the current international situation shows, terrorism emerges where contradiction aggravate, where there is a change of social relations or a change of regime, where there is political, economic or social instability, where there is moral decadence, where cynicism and nihilism triumph, where vice is legalized and where crime spreads. It is globalization what creates the conditions for the emergence of these extremely dangerous phenomena. It is in this context that the new world geo-strategic map is being designed, that the resources of the planet are being re-distributed, that borders are disappearing, that international law is being torn into pieces, that cultural identities are being erased, that spiritual life becomes impoverished... The analysis of the essence of the globalization process, the military and political doctrines of the United States and other countries, shows that terrorism contributes to a world dominance and the submissiveness of states to a global oligarchy. This means that terrorism is not something independent of world politics but simply an instrument, a means to install a unipolar world with a sole world headquarters, a pretext to erase national borders and to establish the rule of a new world elite. It is precisely this elite that constitutes the key element of world terrorism, its ideologist and its "godfather". The main target of the world elite is the historical, cultural, traditional and natural reality; the existing system of relations among states; the world national and state order of human civilization and national identity. Today's international terrorism is a phenomenon that combines the use of terror by state and non-state political structures as a means to attain their political objectives through people's intimidation, psychological and social destabilization, the elimination of resistance from power organizations and the creation of appropriate conditions for the manipulation of the countries' policies and the behavior of people. Terrorism is the weapon used in a new type of war. At the same time, international terrorism, in complicity with the media, becomes the manager of global processes. It is precisely the symbiosis between media and terror, which allows modifying international politics and the exiting reality. In this context, if we analyze what happened on September 11, 2001, in the United States, we can arrive at the following conclusions:
1. The organizers of those attacks were the political and business circles interested in destabilizing the world order and who had the means necessary to finance the operation. The political conception of this action matured there where tensions emerged in the administration of financial and other types of resources. We have to look for the reasons of the attacks in the coincidence of interests of the big capital at global and transnational levels, in the circles that were not satisfied with the rhythm of the globalization process or its direction. Unlike traditional wars, whose conception is determined by generals and politicians, the oligarchs and politicians submitted to the former were the ones who did it this time.
2. Only secret services and their current chiefs or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude. Generally, secret services create, finance and control extremist organizations. Without the support of secret services, these organizations cannot exist, let alone carry out operations of such magnitude inside countries so well protected. Planning and carrying out an operation on this scale is extremely complex.
3. Osama bin Laden and "Al Qaeda" cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders. Thus, a team of professionals had to be created and the Arab kamikazes are just extras to mask the operation. The September 11 operation modified the course of events in the world in the direction chosen by transnational mafias and international oligarchs; that is, those who hope to control the planet's natural resources, the world information network and the financial flows. This operation also favored the US economic and political elite that also seeks world dominance.

General Leonid Ivashov with journalist Christopher Bollyn from American Free Press

The use of the term "international terrorism" has the following goals: Hiding the real objectives of the forces deployed all over the world in the struggle for dominance and control; Turning the people's demands to a struggle of undefined goals against an invisible enemy; Destroying basic international norms and changing concepts such as: aggression, state terror, dictatorship or movement of national liberation; Depriving peoples of their legitimate right to fight against aggressions and to reject the work of foreign intelligence services; Establishing the principle of renunciation to national interests, transforming objectives in the military field by giving priority to the war on terror, violating the logic of military alliances to the detriment of a joint defense and to favor the anti-terrorist coalition; Solving economic problems through a tough military rule using the war on terror as a pretext. In order to fight in an efficient way against international terrorism it is necessary to take the following steps: To confirm before the UN General Assembly the principles of the UN Charter and international law as principles that all states are obliged to respect; To create a geo-strategic organization (perhaps inspired in the Cooperation Organization of Shanghai comprised of Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan) with a set of values different to that of the Atlantists; to design a strategy of development of states, a system of international security, another financial and economic model (which would mean that the world would again rest on two pillars); To associate (under the United Nations) the scientific elites in the design and promotion of the philosophical concepts of the Human Being of the 21st Century. To organize the interaction of all religious denominations in the world, on behalf of the stability of humanity's development, security and mutual support. General Leonid Ivashov General Leonid Ivashov is the vice-president of the Academy on geopolitical affairs. He was the chief of the department for General affairs in the Soviet Union's ministry of Defense, secretary of the Council of defense ministers of the Community of independant states (CIS), chief of the Military cooperation department at the Russian federation's Ministry of defense and Joint chief of staff of the Russian armies.
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Old 04-29-2006, 07:44 PM
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Lies, Lies and more lies. Also a movie about the lies.

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ArticlesMeyer3March2006.html

A Boeing 757 did not hit the Pentagon
by Michael Meyer, Mechanical Engineer

To the members of the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven:
I would like to give you my input as to the events on September 11, and why it is a physically provable fact that some of the damage done to the Pentagon could not have occurred from a Boeing 757 impact, and therefore the 9/11 Commission report is not complete and arguably a cover-up. I will not speculate about what may have been covered up, I will only speak from my professional opinion. But I will explain why I do not believe the Pentagon was hit by a Boeing 757.
I am a Mechanical Engineer who spent many years in Aerospace, including structural design, and in the design, and use of shaped charge explosives (like those that would be used in missile warheads).
The structural design of a large aircraft like a 757 is based around managing the structural loads of a pressurized vessel, the cabin, to near-atmospheric conditions while at the lower pressure region of cruising altitudes, and to handle the structural and aerodynamic loads of the wings, control surfaces, and the fuel load. It is made as light as possible, and is certainly not made to handle impact loads of any kind.
If a 757 were to strike a reinforced concrete wall, the energy from the speed and weight of the aircraft will be transferred, in part into the wall, and to the structural failure of the aircraft. It is not too far of an analogy as if you had an empty aluminum can, traveling at high speed hitting a reinforced concrete wall. The aluminum can would crumple (the proper engineering term is buckle) and, depending on the structural integrity of the wall, crack, crumble or fail completely. The wall failure would not be a neat little hole, as the energy of the impact would be spread throughout the wall by the reinforcing steel.
This is difficult to model accurately, as any high speed, high energy, impact of a complex structure like an aircraft, into a discontinuous wall with windows etc. is difficult. What is known is that nearly all of the energy from this event would be dissipated in the initial impact, and subsequent buckling of the aircraft.
We are lead to believe that not only did the 757 penetrate the outer wall, but continued on to penetrate separate internal walls totaling 9 feet of reinforced concrete. The final breach of concrete was a nearly perfectly cut circular hole (see below) in a reinforced concrete wall, with no subsequent damage to the rest of the wall. (If we are to believe that somehow this aluminum aircraft did in fact reach this sixth final wall.)

EXIT HOLE IN PENTAGON RING-C
American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757, is alleged to have punched through 6 blast-resistant concrete walls‹a total of nine feet of reinforced concrete‹before exiting through this hole.

It is physically impossible for the wall to have failed in a neat clean cut circle, period. When I first saw this hole, a chill went down my spine because I knew it was not possible to have a reinforced concrete wall fail in this manner, it should have caved in, in some fashion.
How do you create a nice clean hole in a reinforced concrete wall? with an explosive shaped charge. An explosive shaped charge, or cutting charge is used in various military warhead devices. You design the geometry of the explosive charge so that you create a focused line of energy. You essentially focus nearly all of the explosive energy in what is referred to as a jet. You use this jet to cut and penetrate armor on a tank, or the walls of a bunker. The signature is clear and unmistakable. In a missile, the explosive charge is circular to allow the payload behind the initial shaped charge to enter whatever has been penetrated.
I do not know what happened on 9/11, I do not know how politics works in this country, I can not explain why the mainstream media does not report on the problems with the 9/11 Commission. But I am an engineer, and I know what happens in high speed impacts, and how shaped charges are used to "cut" through materials.
I have not addressed several other major gaps in the Pentagon/757 incident. The fact that this aircraft somehow ripped several light towers clean out of the ground without any damage to the aircraft (which I also feel is impossible), the fact that the two main engines were never recovered from the wreckage, and the fact that our government has direct video coverage of the flight path, and impact, from at least a gas station and hotel, which they have refused to release.
You can call me a "tin hat", crazy, conspiracy theory, etc, but I can say from my expertise that the damage at the Pentagon was not caused by a Boeing 757. Sincerely,
Michael Meyer
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Thanks for this unbelievable information regarding 9/11. This is yet another nail in the coffin of the official story.
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It's strange how Meyer's post-facto analysis (without any access to the site) is in total conflict with eye-witnesses.

And, it just so happens, that MY office window gave me a perfect view of the airliner crashing into the Pentagon as I was getting my things together to get the hell out of Washington.

It wasn't a cruise missle, it was a commercial airliner.

Perhaps all you Patriots should give a little reflection on the thousands of people who were killed that day by radical Islamic terrorists.

Every word you utter claiming they were the victims of some crazy USA plot cheapens their memories and their lives.

I had friends who died in New York, Washington, and on the planes.

Your attitude sickens me.
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