Stock Market Investing for Sovereigns?

[antjraf]

Should someone who is taking steps to disassociate themselves from the Fed. Gov't (non-endorsing, using true name, not using a SSN, etc.) be involved in stock investing? It seems to me that owning or trading stocks may create the assumption that "you want in".

Before reading and learning about the true nature of the banking system we have, and the private credit used to trap us into tax liabilities, I was planning to start investing. Now, I'm not so sure.

Is merely participating in the Stock Market an admission to accepting all the rules of the private Fed? If we invest without using a SSN or legal fiction name, can we participate without the "private credit" liabilities? Or is the answer to simply not partake in this system at all?

[weishaupt1776]

the answer to your qustion is a no brainer

"If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and walks like a duck, it must be a duck"

You could believe some Satanic lies that you can have it both ways if you want, though

[antjraf]

Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

the answer to your qustion is a no brainer

"If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and walks like a duck, it must be a duck"

You could believe some Satanic lies that you can have it both ways if you want, though

Which is why I am leaning towards not getting in the market. My question, I guess, is if there is a lawful way to invest as there is a lawful way to travel rather than to "drive". Or is the entire system something to stay clear of completely.

[weishaupt1776]

if you are seeking some form of status correction in that you want to rebut the presumption of 14th amdnmt citizenship, then invsting in the ,arket would not be a good idea

The only other way I would know of would be to find some commodities genius, and then invest in him "privately" to where he "pays you back"

[International American]

Originally Posted by antjraf

Should someone who is taking steps to disassociate themselves from the Fed. Gov't (non-endorsing, using true name, not using a SSN, etc.) be involved in stock investing?

Depends, will you have a US brokerage account or a foreign brokerage account? If you want no association with the Feds, I suggest you get a foreign brokerage account, ideally in the name of a foreign corporation, just to give you a little extra privacy.

It seems to me that owning or trading stocks may create the assumption that "you want in".

It will if you are using a US brokerage. However, the US has no jurisdiction over foreign brokerages. I am not a "Sovereign" yet and am still a US citizen but I use a different method to achieve more or less the same results as true Sovereigns achieve.

Before reading and learning about the true nature of the banking system we have, and the private credit used to trap us into tax liabilities, I was planning to start investing. Now, I'm not so sure.

You SHOULD invest. Investing is probably the best thing any one can do, it gives you true freedom, this is real capitalism, making money from money, instead of very hard work and labor! God gave us all a great brain, we should try and use this more than our brawn, it will make life easier. I am a full time professional investor and I have more freedom than I ever need. Instead of working like a donkey and a sucker like the rest of the morons in this rat race called a "career" or like those other fools with a "job" (Just Over Broke), I just chill and do whatever I feel like, I spend time with my family and friends, the people that matter, instead of some power crazy idiots at a "job".

Is merely participating in the Stock Market an admission to accepting all the rules of the private Fed?

Not necessarily. The stock market is usually regulated by the SEC and not the Fed. The Fed usually controls interest rates, which do affect the stock market but there doesn't seem to be any real control.

If we invest without using a SSN or legal fiction name, can we participate without the "private credit" liabilities? Or is the answer to simply not partake in this system at all?

You can avoid all the hassles you mention by simply using international offshore entities, like I and many others do. Thanks,

IA