Adios Amigos

[iamfreeru2]

I have decided to move on and will no longer be posting on this forum. I was hoping that the site would stay totally out of commerce and remain as it was when SJ was the administrator. One of the things that drew me to this site was the fact that information was freely exchanged and the interest was eliminating the fraud. Now it seems information that people need will no longer be free. The use of FRNs is the biggest enslaving tool that BB and the FRB uses against us. I see this site is promoting its use just as JHD & Associates did and the old TSN. Those two sites have gone by the way side. I fear the same will happen here. The use of FRNs is not eliminating the fraud, but helping it to continue. This is how I see it and IMHO. Good bye all and peace.

I cannot speak for the administration here. I have not been enabled, nor would I want that. We would miss you if you indeed leave.

The sad facts remain that:

1. No matter your feelings on commerce, it would quickly come home to roost if you couldn't pay your bills.

2. SJ made this a totally free site for a LOOOONNNNG time. Know how many "donations" he received? My knowledge is less than $200. (Can you say loss?) [I was broke and couldn't, but then everyone else was too].

3. Know how much it costs to run a site like this? (take a guess.)

4. There is nothing "free." Everything has to be paid for somewhere, somehow. My agreement or disagreement with how it is done doesn't change the foregoing.

5. People are looking for answers. If you have them, and can still freely provide them, do you have release to withhold the answers you can provide?

Disclaimer: This is in no way an endorsement of anything on this site. But, I hate to see the truth silenced just because someone has to pay the bills.

Henry Franklin

[J.W.]

Iamfreeyouare2 as well as others:

It is impossible to escape commerce period, unless of course you go live in the woods such as Ted Kaczynski (The Unabomber) a hermit, and survive solely off of the land. In fact, communication i.e. the interchange of ideas, philosophies, and the like as well as sexual intercourse is defined as commerce, believe it or not.

It is unfortunate that there exists an ever-increasing communist mentality amongst patriots who simply do not entirely understand the widespread tentacles of commerce and thus, do not support organizations who put great time and effort forth in the nature of research as well as providing resources both for a reasonable cost as well as free.

If people truly knew the amount of money that it costs to host a site such as this, considering servers, bandwidth, software, staff (webmaster) and the like many of you would have an epiphany for sure. The hosting costs alone are several hundred dollars a month and that’s just the beginning.

Further, even Yahoo groups and the like bombard their users with advertisements in an effort to recoup their costs and hopefully make a profit at the end of the day.

Now when it comes to publishing books, videos hosting lectures and the like I could personally write a treatise on communist patriot think and other statements such as: "If its help people it should be free." Well, I can’t speak for the others of our team but I’d be happy to make all of the material, books videos and audios available and have this site for free as long as people are willing to pay my rent, bills, provide food and the like so at least I may sustain myself. However, the bitter truth is that will never happen and guess what, it still would fall into the definition of commerce, for it involves the exchange or interchange between two or more parties.

With regard to communist and so******t philosophy, there is a lot to be said about such. Personally, I find it to be quite idealistic but the evidence is clear that it only works on paper, unless of course we take into consideration the lifestyles of indigenous cultures throughout the world who have subscribed to either communist or so******t philosophies in part and survived for thousands of years until their nearly unilateral conquering. Mankind is not ready for such in my opinion and further; I certainly cannot say that such ideologies would be best for this planet anyhow.

People are free to post whatever they want as long as it conforms the Terms of Use, namely the Rules of Engagement and are respectful and tolerant of other peoples cultures, class, ethnic origin, theology and the like.

If you have questions are concerns feel free to private message me.

Jason Whitney

[jaylon]

Iamfreeru2,

I can understand how you feel and if I were in your situation I can't say that I would have a different feeling and/or reaction.

What I know is that you are a major part or the forum, and to lose you would be a great blow. I also know that dealing with people can be difficult, however progress can be made if one sincerely make an attempt to see things from the others point of view.

What has really changed about the forum except for the fact that there is more information available that can, in my opinion, help cut down on a lot of speculation and encourage good study habit before jumping in with both feet unprepared?

Can you honestly say that if the tables were turned and you had the privilege of making the forum available at your own expense you would be able to keep it totally out of commerce and provide the needed administration?

I am in no way trying to belittle your feelings or decision; however I think that all factors must be taken into consideration before making an emotional decision that will affect the lives of countless individuals.

By removing yourself from the forum you are depriving us all of your knowledge and the privilege to learn from a great leader.

I would hope you reconsider your decision; however I will support whatever decision you make and wish you the best in your future studies and endeavors.

[dadmoonbunny]

I understand your view point. I am sorry that you have chosen this absolutist route, as your knowledge and experience will be an illogical loss to this board. For one of your esteemed knowledge, and abilities, I would have thought you would "stay the course."

You have my best wishes in all of your future endeavours, andmay you find a place to land (with honor) soon.


Best Regards, DMB

[masterduke]

Iamfree, don't Jet, you are an asset to this site.

[weishaupt1776]

Imfree, it would be a tremendous loss to this site should you walk away.

Sui juris took the hits all by himself as far as the costs of having his own server and this forum software.

I mean this is some really nice software here. This isn't some ghetto-ized stuff like alot of other boards.

If these ads and us clicking on them defray the costs, I am all for it.


But the most important thing is that I have met Jason and his crew and these guys are for real.
They will take a kick to the nuts just to have a good speaker in a respectable venue just to get the word out

[Admin]

I would hate to see a user go. I would stick around, I'm adding some great new features to the site like an improved Download Manager so users can upload and share files easily. All FREE of charge to all SJ users!

[sadie]

iamfree2

You may never realize how many people you have helped on this forum.
I pray that you may reconsider.

[Livefire]

I also would hate to see iamfree leave, it would a great loss for sure. I understand both sides. If you do leave, dont be too surprised if you get an email from me on occasion! I also speak blessings unto you and you house. May YHWH truly set a table before you in the presence of your enemies and anoint your head with oil and cause your cup to run over! No weapon that is formed against you shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against you in judgment you shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of YHWH, and their righteousness is of me, says YHWH.

If we dont see you here again, my brother, I wish you Godspeed

Livefire