
05-25-2006, 09:43 AM
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conversation with a lawyer
the other day i had an interesting conversation with an attorney-at-law.
i simply asked him if he was familar with the "sovereignty movement"
he said "yes".
I said so is the sovereignty movement pretty common in the legal system or they considered the "fringe"
he said the "fringe"
i said so have you ever heard of any strategies called "acceptance for value or refusal for cause"
he replied "yes i have heard of these tactics, but you must be very, very careful as it can get you into trouble.
i said what do you mean?
he goes , well if you piss the judge off to much by "asking questions" you can only take it so far...
i said "contempt"
the attorney goes, well not neccessarily , but it has happened before.
I said so wouldnt the judge/prosector be kind of pissed off if he has to discharge your case and they dont get any money from say a traffic citation in an adminstrative hearing.
he looked at me kind of irritated , shakes his head, and goes , yes possibly.....
then it was his stop to get off the subway, he looks at me kind of pissed of and goes nice chatting with you.
i go the same..
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05-25-2006, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mystic one
the other day i had an interesting conversation with an attorney-at-law.
i simply asked him if he was familar with the "sovereignty movement"
he said "yes".
I said so is the sovereignty movement pretty common in the legal system or they considered the "fringe"
he said the "fringe"
i said so have you ever heard of any strategies called "acceptance for value or refusal for cause"
he replied "yes i have heard of these tactics, but you must be very, very careful as it can get you into trouble.
i said what do you mean?
he goes , well if you piss the judge off to much by "asking questions" you can only take it so far...
i said "contempt"
the attorney goes, well not neccessarily , but it has happened before.
I said so wouldnt the judge/prosector be kind of pissed off if he has to discharge your case and they dont get any money from say a traffic citation in an adminstrative hearing.
he looked at me kind of irritated , shakes his head, and goes , yes possibly.....
then it was his stop to get off the subway, he looks at me kind of pissed of and goes nice chatting with you.
i go the same..
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Yea. His encounter with you probably made him go home and kick his dog....maybe twice.
Must be a real burr in his butt to know there are still people who know they're aiding a revenue racket being run under the guise of public safety.
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05-25-2006, 10:11 AM
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yeah, prior to me sitting down with him for a chat he was talking with his other attorney-at-law friend and they were spewing there legal babble about past cases and cases coming up, commenting on advertisments about other law firms that they saw on the subway, i did such and such with my wife, yeah me and johnny had a bar-b-cue with the joneses last weekand, basically just talking there im a lawyer babble trying to sound impressive to people around them.
when little ole- me started asking questions, it probably pissed him off being that im not a part of his "bar association or his little law firm clique. 
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05-25-2006, 10:36 AM
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in my younger day...
In meeting with the obligations of being Bachelor of the Month in a major Girlie Magazine I met a young fashion model from Birmingham and then she moved to Atlanta. She was also a paralegal and boasted working for the first attorney ever to advertize on television.
That is kind of interesting. Unlike alcohol and cigarettes which were originally advertized, these attorners began advertizing only since about 1990, if this lady was correct. She told me at that time, '92-'93 that one in eight people in Atlanta was an attorney.
Wow! I recall thinking it a statistical anomoly, even then in my career in electronics, that so many people leached off the troubles of others for a living - that there was so much dead weight in Atlanta.
Your anecdote reminds me of being in the Qwest building in Denver waiting for a suitor to get filed a few years ago. I was walking out of the Wall Street Cafe in there and passed a white-haired gentleman who was addressed "Judge" by somebody familiar. I was refilling my PEZ container (Goofy) so he caught up with my at the door. I asked him, "Are you an Article III judge?" He snorted a short chuckle and replied, "Hardly! - It seems never."
Then he took me in with a quick inspection while we pushed open the doors into the plaza. My hands being full carefully loading Goofy (you know how messy that can get while you are walking), or we might have shook and introduced ourselves. But that moment went by and as we parted in the plaza he added in a much more formal tone, "Yep. Hardly ever. But I have been thinking about that."
He jaywalked across Stout Street and entered the Tenth Circuit building like he was a justice returning from lunch.
Regards,
David Merrill.
Last edited by David Merrill : 05-25-2006 at 10:40 AM.
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05-25-2006, 12:53 PM
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colorable fiction
Mister David you are too funny.. But i suppose being that all this is a "colorable fiction" we can never take ourselves to seriously in alice in wonderland.
they want us to be serious, so that we "contract" with them.
if we laugh at them with there scribbles on papers, we see how we have been so hypnotized to think that a potato is an apple, when all the stage hypnotist did is implant this belief.
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05-31-2006, 10:34 AM
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Colorable Fiction
i especially like the comment "are you an article 3 judge"
i was filling up my pez container, "Goofy. of course."
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05-31-2006, 02:11 PM
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rubbish
More balderdash. "One in eight people in Atlanta is an attorney." That would be in the neighborhood of 12.5%.
Any way you slice it, that's a bogus notion. The city limit population of Atlanta is about 400,000. 12.5% of that would be 50,000. There aren't that many lawyers in the entire state of Georgia. Not even close. We number about 25,000 to 30,000.
Atlanta's metro population is about 4.5 million. 12.5% of that is 562,500. That would be more than half the lawyers in the entire United States of America.
The whole story just sounds like another one of your delusions.
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05-31-2006, 04:10 PM
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All seriousness aside.
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