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Old 05-25-2006, 10:23 AM
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Talking skip tracing programs

prior to coming to suijuris.net. i was totally naive of various legal strategies that i had at my disposal, so i did alot of research in how "creditors" use skip tracing programs whether that being "updating" your address when you do change of address, applying for new credit cards, opening up bank accounts, applying for jobs wherby people can find you through your tax returns at your home address, renewing dl or applying for new ones.)

neways theres a multitude of ways that debt collectors and attorneys try to use to try to contact you.. This is esp important anytime you provide your ss to any company as all they have to do is data mine this info to find your last known address blah blah blah.

so my question for patrons here, is since i have become somewhat competent on how skip tracing programs work, would it be advisable to keep my anonymity despite whatever negative remarks, judgements are on my credit report as of now?

i feel why bother taking on "cases" until i have the time and the money to discharge each individual case one by one as im learning the new legal procresses... as my resources are limited now, and would rather try the new strategies on any future cases. i just have a wierd aversion to bring up the old cases since the privacy tactics have been working thus far.

if the skip tracers dont know where im at, why am i going to put address back out there on the market, so that they can try to get me to "contract " with them again??


any comments patrons on where i should draw the line between privacy and when its appropriate to apply the honor/dishonor procress for contracts on my kitchen table.????????

i suppose i can go back to the past when im financially and mentally ready, and anything within my finances and time now, i can use my new strategies instead of depending on the privacy strategies to much as this is not really a cure, just more a less a shield until you can apply more effective ways to actually get things completely discharged.
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:58 AM
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any comments patrons on where i should draw the line between privacy and when its appropriate to apply the honor/dishonor procress for contracts on my kitchen table.????????

The earlier the better. According to straighforward rules for clerks of court the material is filed at the time of rounddating/postmarking. If the material is prepaid with a stamp/postage then you are looking at a filed lawsuit on your kitchen table.

The question you might ask is Do I want to appear in the court of the Return Addressee as the Name on the envelope? If not, then write Return to Sender (arrow to Return Addressee) and Not Residing Here (arrow to the legal name or NOM DE GUERRE). Be sure to use a good marker (China Wax is best I hear) to mark through the Recipient Address and any barcodes. If there is any gravity to the suit then copy it (the envelope) and take it down to the post office. Get the clerk who accepts it back to Return to Sender to roundate your copy only. Do not pay any postage.

Being the Postal Service is process server of these suits there may be resistance like "Well if this is not your name we will quit delivering any and all mail to that name." They are required by law and DMM to deliver any and all material to that address or box, regardless of name. Inquire with Henry Bowman about that and he may post a link to the Regulations to show the Postal Servers.

Then the next part of your kitchen deliberations and adjudications is about the worth of intelligence. A typical suitor with an established evidence repository will weigh the intelligence against $25. One $12 Registered Mailing to get the presentment back to the presenter and another $12 Registered Mailing to the US Courthouse.


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Attachment. When the presenter is a magistrate pretending to be a federal judge put the R4C process into one Registered Mailing for $12.
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:41 PM
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Talking the process part 2

Mr. David Merrill:

Your response:Then the next part of your kitchen deliberations and adjudications is about the worth of intelligence. A typical suitor with an established evidence repository will weigh the intelligence against $25. One $12 Registered Mailing to get the presentment back to the presenter and another $12 Registered Mailing to the US Courthouse.

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So your saying, Myself as the Sovereign, I must make the determination if i want to pay the $25 dollars to press the issue and hold court on the kitchen table? earning whatever experience may come of it positive or negative and being able to face the consequences if you lose for an error on your part and/or judicial corruption.?

Consequently, if you can handle the most negative of conseqeunces financially or timewise and you want to win your case and willing to see it through to your complete remedy, then you can make the decision to hold court on the table, and actually win your case.

Neither Choice is either right nor wrong, its just where you are at mentally and what you are prepared for?




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Attachment. When the presenter is a magistrate pretending to be a federal judge put the R4C process into one Registered Mailing for $12.
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Old 05-25-2006, 06:53 PM
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read this, david!!!!


read the above^^^

the only time you would want to spend the 25 dollars and do the 72 hour period is you want to see if you can get a case discharged?

if you are not ready for all the legal ramifications postive or negative that may come of this line of action it would be better suggested to keep your anyomity until your read to take on a case from start to finish and raise the action if need be.

in both instances you want to keep your anyomity using general post, p.o boxes and the like, but the case will remain unresolved, if all your doing is being anymonous?

meaning that yes, you can "hide" but you havent solved anything long term.

the other being that you can solve the problem, but if you make mistakes along the way you have to face the consequence of whatever errors you made in your adjucation/remedy process?
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Old 05-25-2006, 07:40 PM
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Some suggestions:

1. Determine who you really are. ("JOHN HENRY DOE" or "John Henry" [your true "given" name])

2. Take down your mailbox and house numbers.

3. Whomever you want to mail you, have them do it at general delivery. Use formatting like such

John Henry
general delivery
Anywhere post-office
on North Carolina.
[12345]


(Putting the brackets around the ZIP will stop some rogue postal worker from writing in the ZIP.

Then, notify the Postmaster that any mail with "NC" or with a ZIP code that is unbracketed, or unboxed, you will not receive, also mail or posts that is addressed to JOHN HENRY or JOHN HENRY DOE or JOHN H. DOE (use every possible adulteration you can) you will not receive.

Make sure you reference POM 611.1d [Click the link to the left] when you make this request (notice). That way, they have to do your bidding, and If you want a record, send it registered, make a copy first, and place a one cent stamp on the letter, and the copy, and have the clerk postmark both of them.

Keep one for your files.

Creditors send mail in ALL CAPS.

Just my two cents worth. (pardon the pun)

Henry Franklin

P.S. Do NOT apply for general delivery. It is available to transients. (Make sure you are a transient)

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Old 05-26-2006, 11:45 AM
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Wow. i got it for a 2nd. and now i feel lost again.


in one instance you guys are saying if you dont want to appear for that name, write return to sender.

then in the next sentence, your saying to open up the mail and write refused for cause send it back to presenter and leave a copy in the us courthouse. being that if you feel its worth the $25 dollars..

is this two theories running parallel to each other or does one theory elevate in action to the other theory. you kind of lost me there. which one is it. do i just say, hey i dont want to appear and right return to sender or do i open it and write refused for cause..??
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Old 05-29-2006, 01:21 PM
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Intelligence Gathering. If you think the envelope might be from the IRS and it is a NOTICE that they are gonna sieze a bank account then you may want to open it for the Information to Preemptivly move your account or fortify your defenses. So you would then know that the IRS is moving on you and it is worth the 24$ to R4C it back to them. On the other hand the envelope may contain a benign offer from wine of the month club and you need no intellegence from that organization. Return to sender that one. Open only the suits that may have somthing you want to know about or that are worth the 24$ to R4C. I mean that can get awfully expensive. Thats just how I see it anyway.
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