Goverment ID

[XeBec]

Hi i was just in a store to transfer my phone plane to my name cause its in someone elses name and they asked for a Goverment ID or License well i believe in the freedom to travel so i dont have a ID and i dont want to enter into the corporation by getting a ID from them they wont accept anything else and i was wondering if anyone knews of case law that says that i dont need to show them a license cause they would not accept my credit card with my name my picture and my signature i was thinking about making a sovereign ID and having it notarized by the court what else could i do?

[ezrhythm]

Welcome to the Sui Juris forums!

I know it is easier to whip out otherwise but it will make your posts much easier to read if you use more punctuation.

A sovereign notarized ID, or an ID that you file with your county recorder and then ask for a certified copy may suffice their "government iD" requirement.

OR you could use Pay As You Go service.

[powder]

I use notarized id and state that the notary is an officer / representative of the government..... Shuts them up pretty quick.

[rottweiler]

Notarized by who?

Originally Posted by powder

I use notarized id and state that the notary is an officer / representative of the government..... Shuts them up pretty quick.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by rottweiler

Notarized by who?

A notary I suspect.

[powder]

Originally Posted by rottweiler

Notarized by who?

A Notary Public.

[rottweiler]

That is a Vatican agency private seal. Here in the states we should be using county notaries so if you don't want to be considered a resident alien you should find the equivalency of the county notary or just become one.

What they did is dropped the k from publick. Public means private.

Originally Posted by powder

A Notary Public.

[rottweiler]

What I am saying is the public notary is civil law and the county notary is common law.

[rottweiler]

History of Notaries Public
The office of notary public can be traced back to the ancient Roman Empire, where a prominent but impartial public official was entrusted with the duty of providing legal assistance, authenticating documents and keeping official archives.

The downfall of the Roman Empire saw the development of the Catholic Church. Given its administrative nature, many clergy found it convenient to attain the public office of notary. Consequently the Vatican became responsible for the appointment of notaries.

The Renaissance witnessed the development of two distinct legal systems in Europe, the Civil Law system based upon Roman law and the Common Law system based on English law. The Civil law notary continued to be a recognised public official, performing many of the same services of the common law lawyer, with the exception of court appearances.

England did not develop the profession of notary to the extent of its civil law counterpart. During the 13th century the Pope granted the Archbishop of Canterbury the right to appoint notaries. As international trade developed, the services of the notary became confined to documentation for international commerce. A Court of Faculties, under the guidance of the Archbishop of Canterbury was established and given the responsibility for the appointment of notaries. That responsibility continues today.

There has never been any attempt to codify the precise nature of the office of notary public and today appointment remains with the Court of Faculties in England
http://www.societyofnotaries-qld.org/history.htm

[Lawdog]

What does the history of how notaries public were appointed in Europe have to do with America?

We are required to have a secular government under the Constitution. Allowing the Vatican (or any other religious body) to control the appointment of notaries public would be a violation of the First Amendment.

The laws of the states declare who appoints notaries, and by what means. For example:

Ga. Code 45-17-1.1 "The power to appoint notaries public is vested in the clerks of the superior courts and may be exercised by them at any time."