Credit River Decision

[indio007]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

Here's proof that citing Credit River does NOT work, again from the Minneosta State Law Library's own page: [from http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/askfaq.html#credit ]



As you can see, a federal judge for the Southern District of California ruled just last year that Credit River is a case of no force or effect.

Rely on it at your extreme peril.

I have to agree here. Citing a common law court decision
in admiralty/maritime/merchant law courts is ignorant at best. She probably at some point gave the court currency of no substance and didn't protest it's use by claiming necessity from the get go. This effectively waives any claim against it at a later date.

the key part is this

nor may she cite any opinion or decision as authoritative which no longer has authoritative status.

You can't mix and match law. They are no longer authoritative because she agreed to a different authority by her action or inaction.

[marie]

Hello David Merrill,

I don't know how I got to this site. It had something to do with a political campaign. He was running for some office and the Credit River Decision must have been a large a part of his campaign as all these files were posted on his site.

I must apologize as I neglected to write down the site address. Not much assistance to anyone, I know.

I do have the pdf. files, there are seventy-four I believe and I'm in the process of compressing them.

I've included three in this post...I am unable to upload any more. I don't know if there are upload restrictions and as soon as this is posted I will attempt to upload more in the next post.

Linda Marie

[marie]

My attempt to upload failed, the files may be too large.

I will email compressed files to any on this forum that are interested. Just send me a pm.

Maybe someone more computer literate than I am can figure out an easier way to get the data to everyone.

This is a good lesson for me. I see the value in keeping track of the information I run across and where it may be found.

Linda Marie

[Jerry Pitts]

Originally Posted by marie

My attempt to upload failed, the files may be too large.

I will email compressed files to any on this forum that are interested. Just send me a pm.

Maybe someone more computer literate than I am can figure out an easier way to get the data to everyone.

This is a good lesson for me. I see the value in keeping track of the information I run across and where it may be found.

Linda Marie

Open a 'free' www.box.net account; store the documents there; and configure your storage area for others to have access to the storage area. In the 'free' area, you can store up to 1 gigabyte of data.

Jerry

[Shoonra]

Originally Posted by indio007

Citing a common law court decision
in admiralty/maritime/merchant law courts is ignorant at best.

I'd vary from this slightly. The Mahoney "decision" doesn't even qualify as a common law court decision. It's totally off the wall and it's clearly ghostwritten for Mahoney, and all sorts of other indicia that mark it as bogus. It was, in essence, a pretense by a non-lawyer traffic court JP to declare an Act of Congress (the one making FRNs legal tender) - an Act already upheld repeatedly in real courts with real judges - invalid. Mahoney was not merely beyond his jurisdiction, he was in outer space, when he tried that.

The determinations of such courts, even in their proper traffic and small claims cases, are not published and are non-precedential.

[marie]

Hello Jerry Pitts,

Thank you so much for the tip. I hope I've done this correctly.

Credit River Decision pdf. zip files

1 - http://www.box.net/shared/0yw62kiyog

2 - http://www.box.net/shared/xn1twa5us0

3 - http://www.box.net/shared/z5deadt348

4 - http://www.box.net/shared/4pu5011s8g

5 - http://www.box.net/shared/co558kg000

6 - http://www.box.net/shared/mcvdln7wo8

7 - http://www.box.net/shared/4jpkxwa68s

8 - http://www.box.net/shared/5zpu5kuo8c


Enjoy!

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

I'd vary from this slightly. The Mahoney "decision" doesn't even qualify as a common law court decision. It's totally off the wall and it's clearly ghostwritten for Mahoney, and all sorts of other indicia that mark it as bogus. It was, in essence, a pretense by a non-lawyer traffic court JP to declare an Act of Congress (the one making FRNs legal tender) - an Act already upheld repeatedly in real courts with real judges - invalid. Mahoney was not merely beyond his jurisdiction, he was in outer space, when he tried that.

The determinations of such courts, even in their proper traffic and small claims cases, are not published and are non-precedential.

Shoonra is a non-practicing registered attorney in DC since Dec. 1979 and professionally was a law librarian for the VA Court of Appeals until recent retirement. And that perspective is basically what I have been pointing out all along.

The only thing that was even attackable about the Credit River assize is what Shoonra is attacking. In effect Shoonra is saying that through the Federal Reserve Act, Congress can take banking matters for the US government and subsequently everybody who has ever signed endorsement on the backside of a paycheck outside the scope of the Constitution by contract agreement. True - but in good faith the remedy to doing so must be on the table too (see attachment about chattel mortgages).

Thank you Marie;


I am downloading and will look through for the transcript. It shows clerk Audrey Brown as I said - and I think it best to remember that Mahoney and Daly were both disbarred and that is the extent of things. That is how the Bar got back at them for holding a trial in the superior venue of common law. [Supposing that Mahoney was not intentionally poisoned.]

Since then, there is nothing untrue about Mr. Morgan's testimony - the banks and other lending institutions draft the funds by the borrower's credit in anticipation of double-enrichment.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[Shoonra]

Daly was disbarred. Mahoney was not disbarred because he was never a lawyer.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

Daly was disbarred. Mahoney was not disbarred because he was never a lawyer.

Disbarred but most importantly never evicted.

And Martin Mahoney was therefore an elected or appointed justice of the peace for the positive law jural society - The Credit River Township. All the better that he was not your Brethren, an Attorner like you Shoonra.

I can shed some light on that. Prior to a few years ago Audrey Brown hept the file in the basement there in the county courthouse. I started talking about the Decision and she got so many inquiries that she now keeps the file in her desk drawer - like this 2007 certified copy Marie found.

I learned this from the Township's (then) current clerk Jerry Maas who was helping me by running to the county courthouse and back from Credit River. I convinced him he should take custody at least up to the appeal process of the original documentation. - That the original trial papers should never have left the clerk custody of the Township even back in 1968.

Jerry inquired of the Township's attorney on the board there and the attorney tried to dissuade him from helping me. Jerry said helping me was edifying and rewarding; so the attorney told him that he was being paid (very little) to be the Township's clerk and that he was obligated as such to listen to the attorney gag him from any further contact with me. When Jerry told me about this I told him what a disappointment it was that he would relenquish that power of common law/positive law jural society in assize to the corporate government court system of the County of Scott.

He was appalled that I was not happy after all the running around he had done for me before the attorney bossed him around. But then again, I can understand that he was speaking with me over the phone and his neigbor attorney face-to-face... Sadly we parted on such bad terms.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[Shoonra]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

In effect Shoonra is saying that .......

When DiM begins a sentence with those words, you can reasonably be sure that is NOT what I am saying. In this instance, it doesn't come close to what I have said.