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Old 04-28-2008, 07:08 AM
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Lawdog asked a perfectly reasonable question.

You know that the so-called Credit River Decision was overturned (repeatedly and emphatically) by its state's highest court, and rejected by courts in other jurisdictions. Why are you throwing good money after bad??



Very punny Shoonra!

I think that was the same way Mahoney saw the $2 filing fee presented for appeal in FRNs...

Your presumption is that the State of Minnesota Supreme Court is the highest court in the land. Untrue. Proof that the Township assize is higher is simply that Jerome Daly continued to live in his home for a few more decades before moving to California in 1992. Interestingly, Jerome's letters to people inquiring are "not in file" according to the government clerk Audrey Brown. Jerry Maas - the current Township clerk shared them with me and a suitor recently spoke for two hours with a pal of Jerome's.

I don't care what Lawdog asked - it came from an attorney. And it is another attorney who supports his question as "perfectly reasonable". But you just couldn't help yourself - that clever little pun. Somebody quoted Lawdog saying something about forming your own court? That it is always good for a chuckle...

Bruce Clyde of the SMITH family is probably smiling about that too Lawdog.

http://www.ck10.uscourts.gov/opinions/06/06-6238.pdf

In response to the clerk instruction attached. [Open with an Adobe Reader.]



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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:09 AM
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proof of insanity

DiM's linked document is where a "sovrun" nutjob named Bruce Clyde Smith appealed a district court's decision that rejected his request to transfer a pending criminal case against him to a non-existent "court" of his own creation.

The 10th Circuit AFFIRMED the district court's decision. That means Mr. Smith LOST.

That DiM think this supports his theories is just further proof of his insanity.
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:14 PM
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the proof is in the pudding. Anyone can lose legal ruling on paper, who cares? Reality continued on as is he had won. The legal decree was unenforceable at law. Thats all that matters.
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Old 04-28-2008, 04:07 PM
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the proof is in the pudding. Anyone can lose legal ruling on paper, who cares? Reality continued on as is he had won. The legal decree was unenforceable at law. Thats all that matters.

How could he have won with these papers? The legal minds here have stated they don't have any force. ;)
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Old 04-28-2008, 04:31 PM
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Legal minds - feeble minds!

I liked that jab at the slow real estate market - but I think Lawdog is probably a little too slow to make heads or tails of bungling - oops! I meant bundling.

So I was out in the yard enjoying some welcome spring weather in the lounge chair... I awoke and turned on my Pocket PC - point being that without logging in, I read some Lawdog saying that the Bruce Clyde matter was proof I am insane? I must be too crazy to let things like that bother me...

Just the same, one can look and see that Bruce Clyde never had to assemble the assize, or even bother people to assemble the assize. The Tenth Circuit justices acknowledge Bruce Clyde is out of the scope of the federal jurisdiction by simply refusing the petition In Forma Pauperis. Good enough for Bruce Clyde anyway. No prison time for that. The clerk of the one supreme Court probably refused to put the matter on the docket. - Wished Bruce Clyde a nice day and sent him back home to Oklahoma with a sack lunch.

I think it much more likely that my Pocket PC is driving Lawdog crazy. By the way, I am under the impression that Lawdog is a Georgia/Florida attorney who brews way too much beer for wise consumption. He has been complimented on his ability to acquire good deals on bulk home brewery supplies for himself and his friends.


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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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By the way, I am under the impression that Lawdog is a Georgia/Florida attorney who brews way too much beer for wise consumption.

He has been complimented on his ability to acquire good deals on bulk home brewery supplies for himself and his friends.


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Where did you get that info? {:>) }
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:38 PM
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By the way, I am under the impression that Lawdog is a Georgia/Florida attorney who brews way too much beer for wise consumption. He has been complimented on his ability to acquire good deals on bulk home brewery supplies for himself and his friends.

There go the voices in DiM's head again, spinning tales.

I've never brewed homemade beer in my life. Not much of a beer drinker. I prefer other "adult beverages."

It's nice that DiM's mom (with whom he no doubt resides) gave him time off from his chores to enjoy the nice weather.

I guess he'll have to clean out his room tomorrow.
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We reject Skurdal's argument that he is a "free man" exempt from the laws because he has "no contracts" with either the state or federal governments...No persons in Montana may exempt themselves from any law simply by declaring they do not consent to it applying to them...Accepting Skurdal's assertion of exempt status is an invitation to anarchy. We decline that invitation. - State v. Skurdal, Supreme Court of Montana, 235 Mont. 291, 767 P.2d 304 at 308 (1988).

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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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This being the unpublished decision referenced in the Minnesota State Library website, I provide the full text:


Sneed v. Chase Home Finance LLC
S.D.Cal., 2007.
2007 u.s.dist. LEXIS 46536, 2007 WL 1851674

United States District Court,S.D. California.

Charlette SNEED, Plaintiff,
v.
CHASE HOME FINANCE LLC, First Federal Bank of California, Homeq Servicing, Countrywide, Gmac/Silverstate, Defendants.


No. 07CV0729-LAB (AJB).

June 27, 2007

Charlette Sneed, San Diego, CA, pro se.
Sanford Shatz, Countrywide Home Loans Inc, Calabasas, CA, Christopher Ray Nelson, Epport RichmanAnd Robbins, Los Angeles, CA, for Defendants.

ORDER GRANTING DEFENDANT FIRST FEDERAL BANK OF CALIFORNIA'S MOTION TO DISMISS; and ORDER PURSUANT TO FED. R. CIV. P. 11

LARRY ALAN BURNS, United States District Judge.

On April 20, 2007, Plaintiff filed her complaint, styled “Complaint to Action of Quiet Title/Lis Penden.”[sic]. The caption identifies three broad theories of recovery. The first is violation of the Truth in Lending Act's Regulation Z and related statutes; the second is invasion of Title pursuant to various cited authorities, including Regulation Z. The third specifies no basis for recovery but merely mentions the International Protocol of the United Nations Convention on International Bills of Exchange and International Promissory Notes (the “U.N. Convention”), House Joint Resolution 192 _FN1_ (identified as “the United States insurance policy”) and the “Emergency Bankruptcy of 1933” [sic], and Am.Jur.2d 81. Plaintiff also references RICO and mentions constructive fraud, and counterfeiting of securities. In fact, the dispute apparently concerns loans secured by six parcels of real property in California and Arizona.


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FN1.__ Plaintiff identifies this as “the United States insurance policy.” It appears to refer to H.R.J. Res. 192, 73rd Cong. (1933), which deals with the standards for currency. See United States v. Lee, 427 F.3d 881, 888 (11th Cir.2005) (describing a letter sent to a bank, referencing House Joint Resolution 192).
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On May 16, 2007, Defendant First Federal Bank of California (“First Federal”) filed a motion to dismiss. On June 7, 2007, Defendant Countrywide Home Loans, Inc. (“Countrywide”) filed its own motion to dismiss. No other Defendants have yet appeared in this action, nor have any other Defendants joined in First Federal's motion, which addresses Plaintiff's standing in connection with one of the properties. The Court therefore construes First Federal's motion as applying only to claims against it. Plaintiff attempted to file an opposition ten days late, just two court days before the scheduled hearing, which was rejected by discrepancy order.

I. Legal Standards

A motion to dismiss under Rule 12(b)(6) tests the sufficiency of the complaint. Navarro v. Block, 250 F.3d 729, 732 (9th Cir.2001). In ruling on a motion to dismiss under Rule 12(b)(6), the court must assume the truth of all factual allegations and must construe them in the light most favorable to the nonmoving party, drawing all reasonable inferences from the allegations in favor of the nonmoving party. Cahill v. Liberty Mut. Ins. Co., 80 F.3d 336, 337-38 (9th Cir.1996).

However, the Court does not accept unreasonable inferences or assume the truth of legal conclusions cast in the form of factual allegations. Ileto v. Glock Inc., 349 F.3d 1191, 1200 (9th Cir.2003) (citing Western Mining Council v. Watt, 643 F.2d 618, 624 (9th Cir.1981)).“While a complaint attacked by a Rule 12(b)(6) motion to dismiss does not need detailed factual allegations, a plaintiff's obligation to provide the grounds of his entitlement to relief requires more than labels and conclusions, and a formulaic recitation of the elements of a cause of action will not do.” Bell Atlantic Corp. v. Twombly, 550 U.S. __, 127 S.Ct. 1955, 1964-65,167 L.Ed.2d 929 (May 21, 2007) (citations, alterations, and internal quotation marks omitted).

Dismissal is warranted under Rule 12(b)(6) where the complaint lacks a cognizable legal theory. Robertson v. Dean Witter Reynolds, Inc., 749 F.2d 530, 534 (9th Cir.1984); see Neitzke v. Williams, 490 U.S. 319, 326, 109 S.Ct. 1827, 104 L.Ed.2d 338 (1989) (“Rule 12(b)(6) authorizes a court to dismiss a claim on the basis of a dispositive issue of law.”)

If a motion to dismiss is granted, the court may grant leave to amend. Leave should be granted unless “the pleading could not possibly be cured by the allegation of other facts” and if it appears “at all possible that the plaintiff can correct the defect.” Lopez v. Smith, 203 F.3d 1122, 1131 (9th Cir.2000).

Allegations asserted by parties proceeding pro se, “however inartfully pleaded,” are held “to less stringent standards than formal pleadings drafted by lawyers.” Haines v. Kerner, 404 U.S. 519, 519-20, 92 S.Ct. 594, 30 L.Ed.2d 652 (1972). Thus, the Court liberally construes the pleadings of pro se litigants. Eldridge v. Block, 832 F.2d 1132, 1137 (9th Cir.1987). Although the Court must construe the pleadings liberally, “[p]ro se litigants must follow the same rules of procedure that govern other litigants.” King v. Atiyeh, 814 F.2d 565, 567 (9th Cir.1987). The Court will not supply facts Plaintiff has not pled. See Ivey v. Board of Regents of the Univ. of Alaska, 673 F.2d 266, 268 (9th Cir.1982).

II. Discussion

Defendant First Federal argues the complaint should be dismissed because Plaintiff has not pled facts showing either that she has standing to sue or why relief can be granted. First Federal contends Plaintiff does not own or reside in the real property located at 2402 Cullivan Street, in Inglewood, California.

First Federal offers a number of factual contentions it believes shows Plaintiff's Regulation Z theory must fail. It states:
1) its disclosure to Plaintiff was proper on its face;
2) Plaintiff has not alleged she provided written communication of her intent to rescind;
3) Plaintiff failed to offer restitution; and
4) the statute of limitations on rescission has expired.
While the Court does not weigh evidence at this stage, Cahill, 80 F.3d at 337-38 (setting forth standard for Rule 12(b)(6) motion), the Court construes these contentions as pointing out the incompleteness of Plaintiff's factual allegations. First Federal's essential argument is that Plaintiff is committing fraud by obtaining loans secured by property then, after the property has been sold, attempting to rescind the loans and keep the money.

A. The Complaint

The complaint is largely unintelligible, consisting of unrecognizable citations and legal terminology. The citations and argument appear to duplicate the body of at least one other complaint recently filed in this district. See, e.g., Belle v. Chase Home Finance LLC, No. 06cv2454, 2007 WL 1518341, *1 (S.D.Cal., May 22, 2007) (describing in detail a substantially identical complaint). However, the core of the complaint in this case appears to be that Plaintiff is dissatisfied in various ways with the way the loans on the subject properties were handled, and seeks damages, rescission of the loan agreements, and return of the properties.

As Defendant First Federal correctly points out, Plaintiff has failed to plead facts showing she would be entitled under any theory to recover damages or obtain possession of the property. Plaintiff has not alleged what her relationship to the properties in question was. On the face of the complaint it is obvious none of the properties is her residence,_ FN2_ as would be required to invoke a consumer's right to rescind. See12 C.F.R. § 226.23(a) (pertaining to right of rescission, and referencing “a consumer's principal dwelling”). __FN3__ Furthermore, although Plaintiff alleges she rescinded the loans, she does not allege facts telling how she did so, but rather seems to assert that her rescission, however accomplished, was valid. This is too conclusory to withstand the Fed.R.Civ.P. 12(b)(6) standard.

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FN2.__ The title page of the complaint gives Plaintiff's address in San Diego, California. None of the properties at issue in this case are located at that address, nor are any of them even in San Diego.

FN3.__ First Federal cites no authority for the proposition that ownership of the residence affects jurisdictional standing. Therefore, the Court will not weigh evidence at this stage, as it would in the case of a Rule 12(b)(1) motion. Autery v. U.S. 424 F.3d 944, 956 (9 Cir.2005) (holding that a district court may weigh evidence on a Rule 12(b)(1) challenge to jurisdiction).
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Plaintiff references several international agreements or declarations, including the U.N. Convention, the International Protocol and Domicile Rule, and the Universal Declaration on Human Rights which she also refers to as the International Bill of Rights. The U.N. Convention has not been ratified by the U.S. Senate and therefore does not give rise to a cause of action. After extensive research, no International Protocol and Domicile Rule was located. Finally, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is a declaration by the United Nations, not a treaty. Tel-Oren v. Libyan Arab Republic, 233 U.S.App.D.C. 384, 726 F.2d 774, 818,(D.C.Cir.1984) (citing authority for the principle that the Universal Declaration on Human Rights “is not a treaty; it is not an international agreement. It is not and does not purport to be a statement of law or of legal obligation.”) Although the United States voted for it, the Universal Declaration on Human Rights does not support Plaintiff's cause of action.

In short, the complaint does not state a claim against Defendant First Federal.



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{continuing the decision in Sneed v. Chase Home Finance LLC}




B. Fed.R.Civ.P. 11 Notice

Plaintiff's allegations concerning the loans appear to be contradictory. She alleges both that Defendants never loaned anything of value (Complaint at 7:21-8:3 (“[T]here is evidence that [Defendants] never loaned anything to Charlette Sneed ....”); id. at 10:15-16 (“[N]o lawful money was lent to the Plaintiff.”); id. at 11:13-14 (suggesting Defendants lent counterfeit securities)) and also that payment of the loan in full was attempted (id. at 7:17-20 (“[A] payment in full was dishonored by [Defendants] ....”) The nature of the alleged business relationship, where nothing of value was lent but where Plaintiff attempted to repay the loan anyway, is never explained.

The resolution of this paradox appears to be that Plaintiff does not recognize U.S. Federal Reserve notes as legal tender (or “lawful money,” as she terms it). Plaintiff repeatedly either implies or asserts that Defendants did not lend lawful currency. (Complaint at 5:1-6:2 (giving H.R. J. Res. 192, 73rd Cong. (1933) as the basis for identifying the loans as faulty); id. at 11:13-14 (accusing Defendants of depositing counterfeit securities into her account); id. at 13:2-15 (alleging Defendants should have disclosed the fact that they were not lending “lawful money,” and asserting that pursuant to U.S. Const. Art I, § 10, cl. 1, “the only lawful tender is gold and silver coin”); id. at 14:21-22 (arguing the U.S. Constitution prohibits dealing in “Bills of credit”)). In particular, Plaintiff reveals her thinking in a boldface paragraph citing what purport to be cases of Minnesota state courts _FN4_ for the proposition that “Federal Reserve Notes [are] fiat money and not legal tender ....“ (Id. at 14:4-11 .)

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FN4.__ Plaintiff identifies these cases as Jerome Daly v. First National Bank of Montgomery, Minn., and Justice Martin v. Mahoney Credit River Township, December 7-9, 1968. In fact, these appear to be unreported decisions with garbled captions. Martin v. Mahoney was a justice of the peace of Scott County, Minnesota who, together with attorney Jerome Daly, was the subject of prohibition and contempt proceedings in the Minnesota Supreme Court in 1969. See In re Daly, 171 N.W.2d 818, 820, 284 Minn. 567, 567 (Minn.1969).
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Pursuant to Fed.R.Civ.P. 11, the Court hereby admonishes Plaintiff that these arguments are legally frivolous. It has long been established that Federal Reserve Notes are legal tender and that legal tender need not consist of silver or gold coin. See generally Norman v. Baltimore & Ohio R. Co., 294 U.S. 240, 303, 55 S.Ct. 407, 414, 79 L.Ed. 885 (1935) (explaining the validity and effect of federal acts providing for the issuance of currency, and affirming the status of Federal Reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal Reserve banks and national banking associations as legal tender); Foret v. Wilson, 725 F.2d 254, 254-55 (5th Cir.1984) (“[The] argument, that only gold and silver coin may be constituted legal tender by the United States, is hopeless and frivolous, having been rejected finally by the United States Supreme Court one hundred years ago.”) (citing Juilliard v. Greenman, 110 U.S. 421, 4 S.Ct. 122, 28 L.Ed. 204 (1884)). Furthermore, it is equally well-established that checks or other instruments redeemable for Federal Reserve notes have value. United States v. Wangrud, 533 F.2d 495, 495 (9th Cir.1976) (affirming conviction of defendant who refused to pay taxes on the grounds that he received checks, not money, and noting that defendant's arguments had “absolutely no merit.”) Finally, U.S. Const., § 10, cl. 1 _merely restricts the powers of states, not the federal government, to issue money. Although Plaintiff is proceeding pro se,Rule 11 applies to her. Should she continue to offer frivolous arguments, she will be subject to sanctions.

Furthermore, the Minnesota cases cited by Plaintiff are not only unreported, but they have been vacated by the Minnesota Supreme Court in reported decisions. See In re Daly, 284 Minn. 567, 171 N.W.2d 818; _Zurn v. Northwestern Nat. Bank of Minneapolis, 170 N.W.2d 600, 284 Minn. 573 (Minn.1969); Daly v. Savage State Bank, 171 N.W.2d 218, 218, 285 Minn. 503, 503 (Minn.1969). _ Plaintiff is hereby admonished she must not cite any decision under which Justice Martin Mahoney purported to question the validity of federal currency or the Constitutionality of the Federal Reserve Act, nor may she cite any opinion or decision as authoritative which no longer has authoritative status.

Plaintiff's rejected late opposition to First Federal's motion to dismiss consists almost entirely of similar arguments and references to similar purported authorities; thus, even if it had been timely and accepted for filing, the opposition would not have been pertinent.

III. Conclusion and Order

For the preceding reasons, all claims against Defendant First Federal are hereby DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE.Plaintiff is directed to review Fed.R.Civ.P. 11. In view of the lateness of Plaintiff's attempted filing of her opposition, and the condition of the document, Plaintiff is directed to review Civil Local Rules 5.1(a) and 7.1(e).

IT IS SO ORDERED.


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