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Carlos, what all did you sign before now? If this is a felony then there would be indictment and I do not believe that that is the case, regardless R4C still works.
I remain firm in that until you go before a judge for the judge to ask your plea, that you have the right to refuse to contract regardless of what happens up to that point, however, reservation of rights is greater insurance in this. There are too many people that this has worked for and I am one of them. Again, I am thinking of Mary Croft immediately when I say this and she had some steel nerve and beat them every single time.
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02-20-2008, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sheisaceo
Carlos, what all did you sign before now? If this is a felony then there would be indictment and I do not believe that that is the case, regardless R4C still works.
I remain firm in that until you go before a judge for the judge to ask your plea, that you have the right to refuse to contract regardless of what happens up to that point, however, reservation of rights is greater insurance in this. There are too many people that this has worked for and I am one of them. Again, I am thinking of Mary Croft immediately when I say this and she had some steel nerve and beat them every single time.
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i signed out my things when i was getting out, and then i signed out when a lady said id have to show up on a later date to pay for my ticket. but now i know she was the judge. but she didnt look like a judge. it was wired.
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02-20-2008, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TXcarlosTX
i signed out my things when i was getting out, and then i signed out when a lady said id have to show up on a later date to pay for my ticket. but now i know she was the judge. but she didnt look like a judge. it was wired.
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As I understand things from reading your posts, you have Refused for Cause the presentment timely. If you are worried enough about the possibility of a bench warrant, appear and pay it off. Otherwise it is over. Done.
Now another possibility is that you might revive that warrant next time you identify yourself to be the It on your government-issued ID. Nasty business - being a government employee like that.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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02-21-2008, 06:50 AM
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R4C is a JURISDICTIONAL CHALLENGE
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Originally Posted by sheisaceo
Carlos, this is what I wrote for Comal County:
Date: 2/19/2008
From: Sheisaceo
Re: Case No. NNNNNNNN
Dear Representative,
The presentment above is dishonored. Sheisaceo as reserved all of her rights under the Uniform Commercial Code at Uniform Commercial Code 1-207 and 1-308. Please find the enclosed instrument returned refusal for cause.
All Rights Reserved.
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Representative, = If they represent you.... you acquiesce
dishonored = You can't dishonor a presentment if there is no DUTY to respond
under = are your rights under the UCC or ABOVE it? Do your rights come from Congress or God?
Uniform Commercial Code 1-207 and 1-308 = The UCC regulates / restricts US citizens / corporations engaged in commerce.. are you a possession of the US (under Congress)?
Never cite their codes / statutes in jursidictional challenges (verbal or written) unless the point being made is how THEY are restricted by THEIR code.
Oh... and don't use the notary for jurisdictional challenges... have two friends witness your signature.
We, the undersigned, witness this 1st day of January, 2006, that the one known to us to be First Middle; Lastname, did personally appear before us in Cityname, State of State, and upon affirmation execute and affix the above signature.
________________________ _______________________
(Witness Signature) (Witness Signature)
Address of Witness: Address of Witness:
Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxx Xxxx Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx
1234 Main Street 4321 Elm Street
Anytown, Anystate 90210 Anytown, Anystate 90210
Your doc... although effective? is sloppy.
They're looking for opportunities, and you have given them several.
Don't !!
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Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor. - Leviticus 19:15
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. - James 2:9-10+12
Last edited by Akira- : 02-21-2008 at 09:21 AM.
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02-21-2008, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Akira-
R4C is a JURISDICTIONAL CHALLENGE
Representative, = If they represent you.... you acquiesce
dishonored = You can't dishonor a presentment if there is no DUTY to respond
under = are your rights under the UCC or ABOVE it? Do your rights come from Congress or God?
Uniform Commercial Code 1-207 and 1-308 = The UCC regulates / restricts US citizens / corporations engaged in commerce.. are you a possession of the US (under Congress)?
Never cite their codes / statutes in jursidictional challenges (verbal or written) unless the point being made is how THEY are restricted by THEIR code.
Oh... and don't use the notary for jurisdictional challenges... have two friends witness your signature.
We, the undersigned, witness this 1st day of January, 2006, that the one known to us to be First Middle; Lastname, did personally appear before us in Cityname, State of State, and upon affirmation execute and affix the above signature.
________________________ _______________________
(Witness Signature) (Witness Signature)
Address of Witness: Address of Witness:
Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxx Xxxx Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx
1234 Main Street 4321 Elm Street
Anytown, Anystate 90210 Anytown, Anystate 90210
Your doc... although effective? is sloppy.
They're looking for opportunities, and you have given them several.
Don't !!
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word!!! im new to this, so we will see what comes from this. i will keep everyone updated!!!
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02-21-2008, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by David Merrill
As I understand things from reading your posts, you have Refused for Cause the presentment timely. If you are worried enough about the possibility of a bench warrant, appear and pay it off. Otherwise it is over. Done.
Now another possibility is that you might revive that warrant next time you identify yourself to be the It on your government-issued ID. Nasty business - being a government employee like that.
Regards,
David Merrill.
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cant i appear and try to fight it? doesnt paying it off mean they win?? i know this is all a game, but id like to start off with a win under my belt!!!
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02-21-2008, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Akira-
R4C is a JURISDICTIONAL CHALLENGE
Representative, = If they represent you.... you acquiesce
dishonored = You can't dishonor a presentment if there is no DUTY to respond
under = are your rights under the UCC or ABOVE it? Do your rights come from Congress or God?
Uniform Commercial Code 1-207 and 1-308 = The UCC regulates / restricts US citizens / corporations engaged in commerce.. are you a possession of the US (under Congress)?
Never cite their codes / statutes in jursidictional challenges (verbal or written) unless the point being made is how THEY are restricted by THEIR code.
Oh... and don't use the notary for jurisdictional challenges... have two friends witness your signature.
We, the undersigned, witness this 1st day of January, 2006, that the one known to us to be First Middle; Lastname, did personally appear before us in Cityname, State of State, and upon affirmation execute and affix the above signature.
________________________ _______________________
(Witness Signature) (Witness Signature)
Address of Witness: Address of Witness:
Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxx Xxxx Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxx
1234 Main Street 4321 Elm Street
Anytown, Anystate 90210 Anytown, Anystate 90210
Your doc... although effective? is sloppy.
They're looking for opportunities, and you have given them several.
Don't !!
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Thanks Akira. I thought that you had second thoughts to tell me about this considering all of the grief I have received lately for being myself. I don't want to give them any opportunities. This might have worked previously, but I want no open ends.
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02-21-2008, 03:01 PM
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Hey Akira, I take it you have read Howard J. Freeman's writing at barefootsworld.com?
http://www.barefootsworld.net/sui_ju...onnection.html
Would you please look at how he confronts the IRS using UCC? I will be doing this myself in the future and I wanted to know if this is still accurate because I know that section 1-207 is in Anderson's and not in West's and that 1-308 is supposed to have some connotations from federal to state.
If I were to respond to the IRS, would I use his reply then? Quote:
"The Uniform Commercial Code works on the same principle. The minute you get a notice of Deficiency from the Internal Revenue Service, you return it immediately with a letter that says: The presentment above is dishonored. (your name) has reserved all of his/her rights under the Uniform Commercial Code at Uniform Commercial Code 1-207.
This should be all that is necessary, as there is nothing more that they can do. "
I think you see where I got the terms 'dishonored' and 'under' from.
Also, what is the difference then from 1-207 to 1-308? And for federal or state? Thanks again.
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02-21-2008, 03:55 PM
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just got back my signature conformation in the mail... haha
this has some hype!!!
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02-21-2008, 04:20 PM
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Would you please look at how he confronts the IRS using UCC?
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Nope.. I read it many years ago, but I have my own battles now... and my calendar is full. (that's why it took a day to respond to your other post.)
Sorry
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Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor. - Leviticus 19:15
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. - James 2:9-10+12
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