I was detained for claming i was one of the people and claiming common law...

TXcarlosTX · #1 02-18-2008, 04:38 PM

ok full story - my friend hit a parked car and fence. he took off, i stayed because i didn't do anything wrong. cops show up and start being really aggressive against me when i was just trying to keep the peace. i was very respectable when i was talking. just asking me questions, well before i went on i just mentioned to him i was one of the people under the preamble of the constitution and to please note that im not under there jurisdiction but i am claiming common law jurisdiction. AS SOON AM I SAID THAT, I WAS SLAMMED ON THE CAR!! ha anyway, when i was in the car i told him he wrong, and please let me go, i am not at fault. HE SAID I WAS DRUNK, TO SHUTUP ( i had some drinks, but i was not drunk) to make a long story short

i was taken to drunk tank and asked to sign that i was in there for PI(public intoxication)

i told them i would sign it only if i was able to make a note that said it was under protest. they said no!!! he put in there i refused.

later i was asked to blow on that alchol thing. i asked if it was volunteer or mandatory? they said volunteering, so i said no. they said i would stay for 12 hrs min. but if i blow i can get out faster.

i have a court hearing thing, where i must put in my plea. im new to all this jursdiction stuff? so what should i do. should i object and not plea cause then im accepting there jursdiction? or ask for charges to be dropped?

basically i feel i was wronged, i should have not been taken to jail and made to sit in a cell for 12hrs. i feel the cop violated my natural rights to travel when he detained me.

?? what do you guys think ??

sheisaceo · #2 02-18-2008, 05:28 PM

Don' ask them anything...at all, because that is the treachery. Tell them that you will not volunteer to contract with them and just keep saying that and that alone. When they ask you your name or if you are so and so, tell them NO and when they ask you to speak the whole truth, etc. TELL THEM NO. If you are getting the picture, telling them yes to anything is what they are looking for.

They will goad you, plead with you, threaten you and on. If you want to make the hearing go faster then keep looking them right straight in the eyes and never take your eyes off of them. This is sending them a clear message that you know they are wrong and more importantly...they know it too.

ezrhythm · #3 02-18-2008, 05:48 PM

Your claim to be one of The People was foiled as soon as you made that claim. It's beneficial to learn to only ask questions that corner, implicate and condemn your accusers unless your statement is, "I am not able to make a legal determination of the question."

Your plan to sign Under Duress was well until you told them ahead of time but no one may decide how you will indorse a presentment unless you let them.
If is hasn't been 72 hours, on the Notice to Appear write, "Refusal For Cause" and make copies for yourself. Send it by certified mail back to the agency that it is from.

TXcarlosTX · #4 02-18-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ezrhythm

If is hasn't been 72 hours, on the Notice to Appear write, "Refusal For Cause" and make copies for yourself. Send it by certified mail back to the agency that it is from..

when you say agency? you mean ??? City of San Antonio
Municipal Court - Magistrate Section to the address givn?

The paper the gave me says this.....

City of San Antonio
Municipal Court - Magistrate Section

CASE DISPOSITION ORDERS :

NAME : my name D.O.B: 7-28-83 On Feb 17 2008 you appeared before a Judge at the City of San Antonio Municipal Court; listed below are the Judges orders:

(boxchecked)
APPEARANCE COURT - You are hereby notified to appear in Court #1, City of San Antonio Municipal Court, on 3/17/08 between the hours of 8am & 1pm on the cases listed in the Appearance Court column on the back of this form. (back of form says PI, for public intoxication)

when i was told to leave they said you have to talk to that lady so she can sign you out. i didn't even know that was a judge, i thought she was just an office person. i did sign a paper to appear on this date. haha there sneaky!!!

International American · #5 02-18-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ezrhythm

If is hasn't been 72 hours, on the Notice to Appear write, "Refusal For Cause" and make copies for yourself. Send it by certified mail back to the agency that it is from..

What is this "Refusal For Cause"? I see it used a lot on this forum but never took much notice of it... What does it mean, when can u use it and what does it do? Also, why the 72 hour time limit? Thanks...

weishaupt1776 · #6 02-18-2008, 06:13 PM

Get your sttus corrected to that of a state national and avoid most of the retarded methods suggested on this forum which either won't get you anywhere or get you in more trouble

TXcarlosTX · #7 02-18-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

Get your sttus corrected to that of a state national and avoid most of the retarded methods suggested on this forum which either won't get you anywhere or get you in more trouble

status corrected? how do i do that?

David Merrill · #8 02-18-2008, 06:37 PM

That is easy for Weis to say, he is in Florida which became a state prior to 1861 (enacted 1845). If you know what you are doing in a de jure state, you can access state citizen rights. But in my opinion, they have to know what you are doing too.

With a municipal jurisdiction you best have an evidence repository in the federal courthouse for your R4C if you choose to go that way. You need to convince them you have the cognizance of the US government. 72 hours is a reasonable timeframe to consider reversing a sale or bargain.

I have some R4C attached.

Regards,

David Merrill.

ezrhythm · #9 02-18-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TXcarlosTX

when you say agency? you mean ??? City of San Antonio
Municipal Court - Magistrate Section to the address givn?

The paper the gave me says this.....

City of San Antonio
Municipal Court - Magistrate Section

Yes.

International American-

Sui Juris member David Merrill has made numerous posts regarding RFC. Entering "refusal for cause" in the SJ search bar will prove beneficial.

Ultimately though I would work on status correction as weishaupt1776 mentioned. That is the only way to be one of The People.
One group that teaches this;
http://embark.to/sovereign-without-subject

TXcarlosTX · #10 02-18-2008, 06:56 PM

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With a municipal jurisdiction you best have an evidence repository in the federal courthouse for your R4C if you choose to go that way. You need to convince them you have the cognizance of the US government. 72 hours is a reasonable time frame to consider reversing a sale or bargain.

I have some R4C attached.

Regards,

David Merrill.

thanks of info. this place where im going is where ive gone to pay for speeding tickets, where you plea guilty, not guilty or no contest, where you ask to do probation to get ticket off of records ect ect. so im assuming they want me to pay a fine for being PI. (and i wasnt!!) i wanted to just talk to the judge and say i wish to get the charges dropped because i told the officer i was a sovereign under the preamble of the constitution and he just put me in handcuffs and that the officer detained me without reason after stating my sovereignty violating my natural right to travel for 12hrs being put in a cell?? what do you think? i can ask for a trial if i want also there?