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Old 02-17-2006, 09:29 PM
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More Surveillance Than You Think

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"WASHINGTON, Feb. 14 (UPI) -- A former NSA employee said Tuesday there is another ongoing top-secret surveillance program that might have violated millions of Americans' Constitutional rights.

Russell D. Tice told the House Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations he has concerns about a "special access" electronic surveillance program that he characterized as far more wide-ranging than the warrentless wiretapping recently exposed by the New York Times but he is forbidden from discussing the program with Congress.

Tice said he believes it violates the Constitution's protection against unlawful search and seizures but has no way of sharing the information without breaking classification laws. He is not even allowed to tell the congressional intelligence committees - members or their staff - because they lack high enough clearance.

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Tice was one of the New York Times sources for its wiretapping story, but he told the committee the information he provided was not secret and could have been provided by an private sector electronic communications professional."

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Note: more than likely he's talking about the ease of tapping on phone conversations through ESS5/7.
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"WASHINGTON, Feb. 14 (UPI) -- A former NSA employee said Tuesday there is another ongoing top-secret surveillance program that might have violated millions of Americans' Constitutional rights.

Russell D. Tice [...] is forbidden from discussing the program with Congress.

Lie, Bold Lie, and Damned Lie!
The appropriate committee members *HAVE* the CLEARANCE to hear such information!!!

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Tice said he believes it violates the Constitution's protection against unlawful search and seizures but has no way of sharing the information without breaking classification laws. He is not even allowed to tell the congressional intelligence committees - members or their staff - because they lack high enough clearance.

Another LIE!!! Again, the members of the appropriate committees have the clearance to hear such information!

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Tice was one of the New York Times sources for its wiretapping story, but he told the committee the information he provided was not secret and could have been provided by an private sector electronic communications professional."

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Note: more than likely he's talking about the ease of tapping on phone conversations through ESS5/7.

I'm Furious about this!
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Perhaps the (Anti)Patriot Act is just a coming out of the closet of what they've been doing since the 30s. And perhaps part of the deception is in their pretending that they didnt have the necessary intelligence systems in place to 'stop terrorism' when they had all this all along and when they had so much intelligence about the 9/11 events before hand *and* ignored it.
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