Where polygamy is the only way of life

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[Logan]

Although I do not support the practice of polygamy in its current form, I find the statistics interesting. In the U.S. alone, we have a near 70%+ divorce rate and thousands of aborted or hopefully adopted children, and yet the polygamists have a strong family ethic, strong family values, (even if they are misguided), and for the most part are more committed to a supportive family unit than the rest of the nation.

If the arrangement is truly consensual and the outcome is positive, who are we to judge and ridicule. Also, how can the STATE or how should the STATE have anything to say what so ever if noone is being hurt or no property is being damaged.

Live and let live, and help the misfortuned.

Remember, polygamy was practiced in the times of the Bible, so why is it so bad now?

[charlesa6]

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"Where polygamy is a way of life.. the way to heaven." Well, I'm not sure about that the polygamy is the way to heaven, I do know that polygamy is practices in some of the others nation.

[marie]

This issue may just be a matter of personal perception; any one who subjected themselves to a marriage license, is in bed with a CORPORATE CLERGY, and the COUNTY, and the STATE. Makes for cramped quarters if you ask me.

marie

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by Logan

Although I do not support the practice of polygamy in its current form, I find the statistics interesting. In the U.S. alone, we have a near 70%+ divorce rate and thousands of aborted or hopefully adopted children, and yet the polygamists have a strong family ethic, strong family values, (even if they are misguided), and for the most part are more committed to a supportive family unit than the rest of the nation.

If the arrangement is truly consensual and the outcome is positive, who are we to judge and ridicule. Also, how can the STATE or how should the STATE have anything to say what so ever if noone is being hurt or no property is being damaged.

Live and let live, and help the misfortuned.

Remember, polygamy was practiced in the times of the Bible, so why is it so bad now?

Without Prejudice.
From what I recall Mongamy-Only (a "Roman-tic" concept) was introduced into NW Europe by Tudors to the point they slowly eliminated polygyny by 1200 AD in that part of the world. It continued to be practiced in other parts of Europe (southern, eastern).

In fact, in the United States and Western Europe polygamy is practiced more than widely and in most base and destructive forms which some refer to as "serial polygamy". Concubinage is practiced more than widely as well. From "dating" to "marriage" the popular version of marriage encourages serial polygamy and escapist divorce rather than responsible perpetation of union, rather than responsible treatment of women by men, rather than responsible adherence to marriage by women. The commercial mindset came to marriage: i) it became about shopping for 'thrills' or 'social status' rather than respect for God, oneself and others, ii) it encourages prostitution, destruction of families and exploitation and sexual debasement of single lonely maidens, iii) it encourage discord, contention and competition among women, iv) it perpetuates a scarcity-oriented mindset among women in particular.

In the United States and the West folks even refer to their former spouses as "my first wife" or "I called saw my third husband today." Its adversarial, win-lose polygamy with mind games. Men responsible with sexuality are discouraged from family building because they might likely find such a poor choice of women to choose from--and not looks but morals and character. Amon gthem, Women are discouraged from being chaste. Young men are not taught to be family minded or responsible. Older men who might have only had one wife and "sexual partner" in such Countries, are just about "forced" to pick from among women who have had little or no mind for sexual purity and perhaps even against their own strong religious prohibitions from doing so. Women who are mindful of sexual purity, even if they are exploited there is little concern overall that any harm has been done.

Interestingly enough, bible animals such as lions and sheep are in nature polygynous. On the other hand, wolves are said to be "fiercely monogamous". I am not saying that mongamy is bad. But its interesting that "mongamy-only" is said to be the "ideal". However, societies where a guy gets 5 women pregnant is just about applauded if he abandons them all to the State and its welfare programs. But if he were to marry them all even if they consented, he might wind up in jail. But the same societies that practice the above adversial win-lose 'serial polygamy' and also concubinace on a wide scale would try to lay judgement on a Mormon or an Arab with their two wives even though the Mormon or the Arab were BOTH responsible and exploited no one sexually--its called hypocrisy. Its interesting to observe those in a society where sleeping around is the norm actually call men with more than one wife "sex crazy" and in their own societies marriage one could engage in "sexual relations" plentifully without any kind of marriage commitment. So why would a man surrounded by people who live that kind of lifestyle marriage two women let alone even one if were only about sex? This is about perspectives.

If its consensual and not forced, I dont see what ground most would have to stand on to judge those who practice polygyny where the women involved consent.

[logos]

Originally Posted by marie

This issue may just be a matter of personal perception; any one who subjected themselves to a marriage license, is in bed with a CORPORATE CLERGY, and the COUNTY, and the STATE. Makes for cramped quarters if you ask me.

marie

You're absolutely correct, marie.

I tell people: if you want the STATE/CHURCH Matrix out of your personal life then stop signing on the dotted lines of their forms. You've never sought the STATE'S permission to have a girlfriend/boyfriend, so why would you fill out a form to have a spouse? People say they wouldn't be legally married w/o the paperwork, but what they mean is that they wouldn't 'really' be married unless the gov't declares them to be. I offer that being married in the end is really just a state of mind, a private arrangement between you, your spouse, and God, if you wish. Aren't two people married the moment they both agree they are?

It's satisfying to see their eyes light up as they say, "damn, you're right. I never thought of it that way."

[RickA]

I have nothing against a man having more than one wife. As, I think, has been posted, if the man will be the husband as was instituted then, the number of wives should be of no concern to anyone. Now, having said that, with the mind set most have today, I don't believe it would work well.

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by RickA

I have nothing against a man having more than one wife. As, I think, has been posted, if the man will be the husband as was instituted then, the number of wives should be of no concern to anyone. Now, having said that, with the mind set most have today, I don't believe it would work well.

Without Prejudice.
I dont tend toward suggesting that most practice it. But then more probably practice win-lose serial polygamy.

[Livefire]

The Bible doesnt forbid polygyny at all.....the NT does however restrict it somewhat.....Paul stated to Timothy that bishops and elders in the house of God be the husband of one wife. I tend to believe that this reflects the nature of the relationship between Christ and the church AND the responsibility of maintaining a household consisting of multiple wives would leave that man little time to tend to the needs of a people. In that case, his family is the flock/church that God has placed him in charge of.

So if one doesnt desire the role of leadership within a church or fellowship body, there is nothing forbidding those types of relationships. Just be sure you can afford it both financially and emotionally! LOL

The problems start when one is involved with the secular contract called a marriage license. Who cares who recognizes the marriages anyways. The only reason for state acknowledgment is for the purpose of receiving "benefits" . Sovereign people should be attempting to come out from amongst that and live separately and free anyways! Remember, no license or attempt to get one....no jurisdiction for the black robed probate sleazebag trying to persecute you for bigamy!