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Old 02-08-2007, 06:33 PM
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Time Travel and Wormholes in the Bible

2 Kings 2:11

And so it happened. They were walking along and talking. Suddenly a chariot and horses of fire (maybe a time travel device ) came between them and Elijah went up in a whirlwind (maybe a wormhole ) to heaven.

Exodus 33:9

whenever Moses entered the Tent, the Pillar of Cloud (maybe a wormhole) descended to the entrance to the Tent and God spoke with Moses.

The Transfiguration of Jesus is an event reported by the Gospels in which Jesus was transfigured upon a mountain (Matthew 17:1-6, Mark 9:1-8, Luke 9:28-36). The original Greek term in the Gospels is metamorphothe, describing Jesus as having undergone metamorphosis.

The Gospels state that Jesus led three of his apostles - Peter, John the Apostle, and James the Great - to pray at the top of a mountain. Once at the top, Jesus became transfigured, his face shining like the sun, and his clothes a brilliant white. Then Elijah and Moses suddenly appeared with Jesus and talked with him; Matthew and Mark do not say what the conversation was about, but Luke states that it was about Jesus' future death. Once they had spoken with each other, the Gospels state that a bright cloud overshadowed (maybe a wormhole) them (Luke also says they entered into the cloud), and a voice from the cloud proclaimed, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased,"

If wormholes do exist in space then time travel is possible.

A word search of whirlwind and pillar of cloud in the bible has more interesting information about wormholes thru heaven.
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I think it's just symbolic language..
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I like the idea that when God interacts in spectacular physical ways with His Creation, he will do so in manners, mathematics that agree with physics.
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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

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Old 02-09-2007, 08:23 AM
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I like the idea that when God interacts in spectacular physical ways with His Creation, he will do so in manners, mathematics that agree with physics.

I agree. As a scientist, I am forced to look at everything in an analytical and scientific method. I truly believe that God has the power to do all of the above and that man will never be able to grasp His awesomeness.

I like the way you guys are thinkin'.
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I think the original post was well thought and raises some interesting points about an intersection between science and the intricacies of the infinite eternal.

It is said that God operates by law.

Mathematics involve some law, and physics has developed many very practical theories, which as such, are penultimate to law.
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I like the idea that when God interacts in spectacular physical ways with His Creation, he will do so in manners, mathematics that agree with physics.
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Unlike the "Heavyside" equations, the Maxwell original quaternist equations (i.e. done in quaternions) and the like actually leave heardroom for scalar waves (Meyl...not to mention 'Teslian), as well as both forward and reverse time travel.

The point being, there is more than meets the eye.
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:34 AM
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Indeed we have a few instances of specific time reversal and stopping rivers, parting seas etc.

As for the scalar properties; everything is vibration. I have even understood e=mcc as matter being light moving in small circles. - that takes a lot of energy and released is what suns are made of.



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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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I like the idea that when God interacts in spectacular physical ways with His Creation, he will do so in manners, mathematics that agree with physics.
I agree... bearing in mind that mathematics too is simply a language of symbols.. mathematical symbols being more precise + numerous than Biblical symbols (ignoring, perhaps, Hebraic gematria), but in either case, it's still a symbolic language.
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2 Kings 2:11

And so it happened. They were walking along and talking. Suddenly a chariot and horses of fire (maybe a time travel device ) came between them and Elijah went up in a whirlwind (maybe a wormhole ) to heaven.

Exodus 33:9
The French magus Eliphas Levi once claimed that all the mysteries of the Kaballah can be distilled down to two types:

1) The mysteries of Creation (Bere****h)
2) The mysteries of the Chariot (Merkava, as detailed in the book of Ezekiel)

When I read verses like this, concerning firery chariots, my thoughts are that if you desire to decode their meaning, the Hebrew Kaballah may hold more answers for you then wormholes + spacetime fluctuations..
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Job 38:1
Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

Exodus 14:24
When morning came, the Lord looked down from the pillar of cloud and fire at the Egyptian army and made them panic.

Looks like God hangs out on the tops of some tornadoes/wormholes.

Don’t forget tornadoes warp space. A tornado could become a type of step-down transformer that converts a high energy system to a lower energy system. I have seen a video of a tornado that had other smaller tornadoes in it’s outer wall.

Some feel that the double helix in DNA molecules do the same, they may converts faster than light energy into matter.

A large tornado/wormhole hovering over a body of water could cause a great deal of downward air pressure on the surface of that water and cause the water to stand up and land to be exposed in the middle.

Isaiah 57:15
For thus says the high and lofty One that inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Here God says He inhabits eternity or is outside of space-time. Instead of going back or forward in time, God may just step in and out of time via a wormhole.



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