If God Can't Do It, Then It Can't Be Done!

[Livefire]

Codee,

Only a "dumb F!@#ing idiot" attempts to interject uniformed opinions on a post that was intended to a specific audience. As for being conditioned to feel superior to others, my posts would indicate the opposite. I read that people of my "persuasion" are to be servants at heart towards my brethern and men.

By the way, it is hard to determine sarcasm and other emotional intent at times in a textual post. All I seen was a denigrating post aimed at gregtu and I countered you suppositions quite well. While your posts are informative on legal codes and the like (I reread them several times to get all the meat out of them) you're a little out of your area of expertise here. If you wish to be a better debater in areas of faith. please review Heidi Guedel's postings....you might actually learn a thing or two when it comes to attacking Christianity.

Should you wish to make meaningful comments concerning religion, bring some substance to the table please and leave the insults at home. You are much better than sort of behavior and I'm sure that you will find yourself far more effective and truly better peoples lives with out the attitude.

[Codee]

You have counter nothing. Yuo want proof that the biblical god does not care about the things LIED to you in the bible.

1) Sodam getting burned and a woman turned to salt.

Gee why San Francisco still around and why is gay marriage comming abouts? I guess god is ok with actuall debates on gay marriage and civil unions. Yes he is. God does not care at all. Thus everything is going along just as laws of nature dictate. No fire from the skys.

2) Babies die all the time. God does not prevent people from obtaining abortions. He must not care. True, God cares only about the eternal soul and nothing about your pathetic little life an earth. He cares not about how long you live. He cares NOTHING about stopping bad things from occuring on Earth.

Why don't you just focus on those two.

[Livefire]

1. The question begs to be asked, How long did Sodom and Gomorrah continue in their moral state, before being judged and said judgment being executed? Those cities had been there since circa 5000 BC. Abraham and Lot were about 2000 yrs after that. Therefore those cities had roughly 2 millenia to establish a pattern. God isnt swift to execute sentence. He gives people plenty of time to either repent or hang themselves. This nation is a mere fledgling comparatively speaking. BTW, the Jewish historian Joesphus clearly states that Sodom and the cities of the plain were very real and that it was destroyed during a divine cataclysm. Your Koran also speaks of Lot and Sodom.....interesting considering you stated that the Koran was authoritative religious law. ;-)

2. Your second argument has already been covered, God doesnt have jurisdiction in the hearts of unregenerated man. The "carnal" mind is forever at war with the Spirit of God and can never be subject to it. It must be put to death. One of the reasons that the nation of Israel was put out of the Palestine was their worship of Molech (infaticide) whose rites make partial birth abortion seem humane in comparison. God told Jeremiah that these sort of things never even entered into His mind!

Many passages of Scripture clearly show that God desires for us to have life and that life more abundantly. Nonetheless, if we decide to walk contrary to God's law, what we sow....that shall we also reap.

[2tim215]

Originally Posted by Livefire

1. The question begs to be asked, How long did Sodom and Gomorrah continue in their moral state, before being judged and said judgment being executed? Those cities had been there since circa 5000 BC. Abraham and Lot were about 2000 yrs after that. Therefore those cities had roughly 2 millenia to establish a pattern. God isnt swift to execute sentence. He gives people plenty of time to either repent or hang themselves. This nation is a mere fledgling comparatively speaking. BTW, the Jewish historian Joesphus clearly states that Sodom and the cities of the plain were very real and that it was destroyed during a divine cataclysm. Your Koran also speaks of Lot and Sodom.....interesting considering you stated that the Koran was authoritative religious law. ;-)

2. Your second argument has already been covered, God doesnt have jurisdiction in the hearts of unregenerated man. The "carnal" mind is forever at war with the Spirit of God and can never be subject to it. It must be put to death. One of the reasons that the nation of Israel was put out of the Palestine was their worship of Molech (infaticide) whose rites make partial birth abortion seem humane in comparison. God told Jeremiah that these sort of things never even entered into His mind!

Many passages of Scripture clearly show that God desires for us to have life and that life more abundantly. Nonetheless, if we decide to walk contrary to God's law, what we sow....that shall we also reap.

2 Peter 3:1 - 18 (KJV) 1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: 3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

2tim215
2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

[Livefire]

2Tim2:15,

Im familiar with that passage and in fact was on my mind as I replied to Codee. Since he doesnt regard the Scripture as an authority, I used my own words and other historical refereces to say the same thing. Cut and paste of scripture isnt always the way to proceed.
I wish to demonstrate a deeper understanding of Scripture than mere cut and paste.