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Old 02-26-2007, 06:10 AM
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If God Can't Do It, Then It Can't Be Done!

Good Morning,
On this day, February 26, this email comes to minister to you. Happy Monday! How are you doing this morning? It's a wonderful day to be a child of God. Have you ever found yourself in the middle of tough times? Nothing seemed to go your way. Have you ever battled loneliness and/or depression? For a season, you felt alone in a chaotic world. Have you ever had a vision but no support? God spoke directly to you, but no one believed it could come to pass. Have you ever endured marital turmoil? Out of nowhere, your marriage began to take a turn for the worse. Have you ever suffered through lies, rumors and gossip? Your name began to spread like wildfire. Can you relate to any of these questions? Do you know someone who can?

This morning, I have been commissioned to come and minister to you. Throughout your life, you have experienced more than most people know. After all you have been through, many wonder how you can stand. My friend, If God Can't Do It, Then It Can't Be Done! No matter how hard or difficult it appears, He is still God. No matter what your circumstances look like, He is still God. Through your battle with diseases and doubt, He is still God. The Bible declares in Romans 8:31 - What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? If you are a child of God, you are destined to overcome and win. Come what may, God is for you. Do you still believe in the power of God? Do you still trust Him at His word? If God Can't Do It, Then It Can't Be Done! The Bible declares in 1 John 4:4 - Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world.

My brother, my sister, what are you experiencing today? Is your trouble greater than your God? Has God promised you anything? Forget what the doctor's report was, what did the Lord say? The Bible declares in Numbers 23:19 - God is not a man, that He should lie; neither the son of man, that He should repent: hath He said, and shall He not do it? or hath He spoken, and shall He not make it good? If God Can't Do It, Then It Can't Be Done! What sickness are you battling? He still believes in healing (Isaiah 53:5 - Jehovah Rapha). What friend has betrayed you? He's still a company keeper (Proverbs 18:24 - Jehovah Shammah). What financial breakthrough are you in need of? He's still a provider (Philippians 4:19 - Jehovah Jireh). What storm are you enduring? He is still a comforter and peace supplier (Philippians 4:7 - Jehovah Shalom). What lie has the enemy spread about you? He is still your righteousness (Matthew 6:33 - Jehovah Tsidkenu). Thought to Remember: If God Can't Do It, Then It Can't Be Done!

Scripture Reading for the Day: Genesis 18:14

May God Bless you at Your point of need!

To God Be The Glory!!
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:15 AM
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Thanks again gregtu for today message.
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:01 PM
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But what about the world of things God won't do?

He won't dirrectly affect your life, as he gave you freewill.

He will not directly influence you, nor communicate to you in any sort of commandments.

He will not "do" anything.

He will not care about your earthly problems in the slightest.

He is only interested in the condition of your eternal soul. Thus he probably does not even gaze upon Earth or its doings.
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:22 PM
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Ok Codee,

Now you stand in the one part of the forum where the
the Bible stands as authoritative law and I will use it to rebut your suppositions.....

1. God doesnt force himself on anyone.....you have to submit to His authority. A sovereign can only rule within His dominion unless He wages war and conquers outlying terrritory. Obviously you are not a subject of His Majesty, therefore He doesnt have a direct influnence upon you....

Rom 10:6-10 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

2. Secondly, God is contunually speaking to His people but they have to take the time to attune their "ears" to hear what the Spirit is saying. He communicates thru the writ of Scripture and that still small voice deep within. If we cant hear what God is saying we either need to take our own temperature or just wait til He speaks.....obedience is the key here...

Isa 59:1-2 Behold, the LORD's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

And later on in the same chapter, verse 21.....

Isa 59:21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and forever.

Here's 2 more proofs....

Jos 1:7-8 Only be thou strong and very courageous, that thou mayest observe to do according to all the law, which Moses my servant commanded thee: turn not from it to the right hand or to the left, that thou mayest prosper whithersoever thou goest. This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

3. This statement saying God will not "do" anything comes from someone who isnt entitled to any Kingdom benefits....no citizenship, therefore carries no weight. The Holy Writ declares.....

Eph 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

This next scripture of course doesnt include suffering for our own stupidity.....

Isa 43:1-2 But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine. When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.

There's far too many passages to cite as proof of God's willingness to intervene in the affairs of men.....Its a historical fact and countless numbers can attest to the fact that He is still active in the affairs of all those who love Him and are called according to His purposes.

4. Obviously if you have ever read the Scriptures, your readings has missed vast numbers of passages stating His love towards his own....just because you may not have experience it, doesnt mean it isnt so.....remember He also has freewill and isnt obligated to reveal or show that love to you....It is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Jer 31:3 The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.

Lam 3:22-23 It is of the LORD's mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not. They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.

1Pe 5:5-7 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

5. Finally Codee, the coup de grace......

2Ch 16:9 For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him.

I gotta ask ya Codee.....if you see no sign of God is it because your heart isnt perfect before Him?? Perhaps you need to curl up with the Book that reveals the true Lawgiver and King and ask Him to open the eyes of your understanding. You have a formidible understanding of what passes as "law", "code", and "statute" among mortal men, but your attack upon gregtu's inspirational reveals your ignorance in spiritual matters and many times its the things that you cant see or hear that matter the most! As for me....all I can say is what David said in the Psalms...If the Lord had not been on my side, my enemies would have swallowed me up alive! You stand rebutted!
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:09 PM
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Quote: He won't dirrectly affect your life, as he gave you freewill.

If man actually possess such a power, where is the proof?

“O Lord, I know the way of man is not in himself, it is not for man who walks to direct his own steps.” Jeremiah 10:23

"Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? Then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil." Jeremiah. 13:23

"…it is God [not man] which works in you BOTH TO WILL [God causes us ‘to will’] and TO DO [God causes us ‘to do’] of His good pleasure" to bring about His intentions (Phil. 2:13).

"For He says to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion" (Rom. 9:15).

"For the Scripture says unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised you up, that I might show My powers in you, and that My name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore has He mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He will He hardens" (Rom. 9:17-18).

Pharaoh did not harden his own heart—God said that He hardened it.

The Myth of Free-Will Exposed
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:28 PM
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Quote: He won't dirrectly affect your life, as he gave you freewill.

If man actually possess such a power, where is the proof?

“O Lord, I know the way of man is not in himself, it is not for man who walks to direct his own steps.” Jeremiah 10:23

"Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? Then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil." Jeremiah. 13:23

"…it is God [not man] which works in you BOTH TO WILL [God causes us ‘to will’] and TO DO [God causes us ‘to do’] of His good pleasure" to bring about His intentions (Phil. 2:13).

"For He says to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion" (Rom. 9:15).

"For the Scripture says unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised you up, that I might show My powers in you, and that My name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore has He mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He will He hardens" (Rom. 9:17-18).

Pharaoh did not harden his own heart—God said that He hardened it.

The Myth of Free-Will Exposed
http://bible-truths.com/lake15.html

How is the bible proof of anything.

Can you prove that it is not just some pick and choose collection of stories?

Out side of your bible where is evidense of God's menality and ours concerning free will?
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Old 02-26-2007, 07:29 PM
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Ok Codee,

Now you stand in the one part of the forum where the
the Bible stands as authoritative law

No. The Ghita and the Koran are.
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Ahhh!!!!! No wonder why you're such a cantankerous fellow at times....you give place to Hindu deities such as Kali and Shiva (" Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds") and give crecedence to the writings of a demon possessed pedophile (Mohammed married a 9yr old girl). I may offend, but its very clear that while these texts may be considered divine by some, they fail miserably when it comes to backing itself up. The Scriptures prophecies have always come to pass, the authors while separated by time, profession, and intellect flow together. Its a near mathematical impossibility for the Book not to be true, considering the 100's of prophecies concerning Yeshua Ha Meschiach that have all been fulfilled.

As a source of law, it is unequaled, only the code of Hammurabi comes close. In times past, the Torah was part of legal education. Hinduism and Islamic Sharia have made no such contribution. Unfortunately, your repsonse was non-responsive as you have offered no basis of proof for your statement concerning any supposed superiority of the Gita or Koran. Objection Overruled!
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Old 02-26-2007, 09:59 PM
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Quote: How is the bible proof of anything.

It’s not. This word “bible,” for your information, was originally Phoenician, then passed into Greek, then Latin. It means books in Greek. It is no where to be found in the inspired text of Scriptures, it’s just put on the cover. “All Scripture is breathed by Elohim (God) and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of Elohim (God) might be fitted, equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:16)

Quote: Can you prove that it is not just some pick and choose collection of stories?

No more than you can prove that it is. "But the natural man [who only can see the literal and the physical—natural things, as opposed to SPIRITUAL things] receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED" (I Cor. 2:14).

Quote: Out side of your bible where is evidense of God's menality and ours concerning free will?

There is no scientific proof, that I’m aware of, that man has a "free will" or the ability to make "uncaused choices." If such a freedom of the will existed, it should be possible to demonstrate it. But there is no such scientific demonstration, that I’m aware of, that man can formulate thoughts and actions to which absolutely no cause whatsoever can be attributed.

For now we will have to agree to disagree for I’m reminded by the scriptures “Do not give what is set-apart to the dogs, nor throw your pearls before the pigs, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces. (Matthew 7:6)
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Ahhh!!!!! No wonder why you're such a cantankerous fellow at times....you give place to Hindu deities such as Kali and Shiva (" Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds")

You must not have been able to put into context the "wink" and the (haha) in my post.

You must be a dumb F#$%ing idiot. And that is the reason you cannot understand. You are brainwashed by one set of folks to feal superior to another.
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