Jesus was born September 11th, 3 BC.

[rottweiler]

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[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Jerry Pitts

numbers can be manipulated in so many various ways, that it becomes indecipherable as to the actual permutations that can be derived, based upon the variables that are involved.

Those numbers really mean little, if anything, because they are based upon other manifestations of mans' intellectual processes with which we have no real evidence to support any of their allegations as they pertain to REAL history.

Jerry

What happened on this thread, as far as my participation anyway, was that experts at matching calendars/astronomy with Jewish tradition, and hints from the scriptures came to the same conclusion that I found years ago. - That Jesus was born on or within a few days of September 11, 3 BCE.

One thing that should be considered is that the Hebrew calendar is strictly lunar. It has an extra month every three or four years in order to correct to solar cycles so that the crops will not fail.

There was a joindering of Egyptian, Babylonian and Israeli thoughts in the sciences during the time of Daniel the Prophet. Eric Temple BELL, Numerology (1933) tells how Cambysis extended the conquest of the Twelve Tribes southward into Egypt and captured Pythagoreas for twelve years, taking him into the schools of Babylon about 550 BC. Guess who was in charge of those schools? Daniel the Prophet. [It is possible that both Daniel and Pythagoreas are allegorical; but just the same, through the political conquests, ideas were joindered in the schools of Babylon while the Jews were being created there.] And it turns out that Numerology by BELL was in its entirety a commentary about Somerfeld's (1916) Fine Structure Constant arising in physics as a "perfect" cancellation - a perfect numerical quantity; which any high school algebra student can see is not:

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I appreciate Rottweiler importing such an exciting confirmation of research I had already concluded years ago. I used it in part to predict violence on TOP of the Temple Mount on September 28, 2000 weeks before it happened - and it happened according to lunar cycles and Jewish holidays.

It is however Rottweiler's style to import about any notion he can find anywhere on the Internet, and to throw it into the thread. For instance here he lost me with trying to prove something about the number 11. I only selected September 11 because that is when the conjunction of Regulus and Jupiter would have been conclusive - and the two bodies would have been appearing brightly together in the morning sky about an hour before sunrise.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[jcsmjd]

Priest named Zacharias, John's dad, Elizabeth, John's Mother/Mary's cousin.

Luke makes it very clear Yahoshua, the Christ was born in September.


Mary is of the house of Judah
Elizabeth is of the house of Levi

King of kings, Lord of lords!

However, the Christ was conceived in December probably around Dec 24/25 so it is not an incorrect claim to say that Emanuel was with us on December. The Ruach ha Qodesh was with us on December. Witness the fact that John leapt in his mother's womb when Mary came to visit!

Thank you for the post Rottweiller.

[rottweiler]

Jesus was born on the Feast of Trumpets on September 11th 3 B.C. and he was conceived on Hanukkah December 13th 4 B.C. This can be validated through scripture by calculating the time of birth of his cousin, John the Baptist who was exactly 6 months older (See Luke 1).

John the Baptist's Father Zechariah was a Priest in the Temple after the division of "Abijah." In 2nd Chronicles 24 we find what time of year the division of Abijah would serve in the temple. Therefore when the angel Gabriel announced to Zechariah that his wife Elisabeth would conceive a son, we know what time of year that was and from that we know when John the Baptist was conceived. So we count 271 days forward (normal gestation period) and we find that John the Baptist was born on Passover in 3 B.C. We count 180 days (6 months) forward and we find that Jesus was born on a Holy Day of Israel called "Yom Teruah" (Day of Blowing Trumpets) (See Leviticus 23). This day is also the "Head of the Year" in Hebrew it is "Rosh" (Head) Ha'Shanah (The Year).
http://www.energeticforum.com/energe...-11-3-b-c.html

Originally Posted by jcsmjd

Priest named Zacharias, John's dad, Elizabeth, John's Mother/Mary's cousin.

Luke makes it very clear Yahoshua, the Christ was born in September.


Mary is of the house of Judah
Elizabeth is of the house of Levi

King of kings, Lord of lords!

However, the Christ was conceived in December probably around Dec 24/25 so it is not an incorrect claim to say that Emanuel was with us on December. The Ruach ha Qodesh was with us on December. Witness the fact that John leapt in his mother's womb when Mary came to visit!

Thank you for the post Rottweiller.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by rottweiler

Jesus was born on the Feast of Trumpets on September 11th 3 B.C. and he was conceived on Hanukkah December 13th 4 B.C. This can be validated through scripture by calculating the time of birth of his cousin, John the Baptist who was exactly 6 months older (See Luke 1).

John the Baptist's Father Zechariah was a Priest in the Temple after the division of "Abijah." In 2nd Chronicles 24 we find what time of year the division of Abijah would serve in the temple. Therefore when the angel Gabriel announced to Zechariah that his wife Elisabeth would conceive a son, we know what time of year that was and from that we know when John the Baptist was conceived. So we count 271 days forward (normal gestation period) and we find that John the Baptist was born on Passover in 3 B.C. We count 180 days (6 months) forward and we find that Jesus was born on a Holy Day of Israel called "Yom Teruah" (Day of Blowing Trumpets) (See Leviticus 23). This day is also the "Head of the Year" in Hebrew it is "Rosh" (Head) Ha'Shanah (The Year).
http://www.energeticforum.com/energe...-11-3-b-c.html

That is in agreement with my research on it too.

[aksis]

Originally Posted by jcsmjd

However, the Christ was conceived in December probably around Dec 24/25 so it is not an incorrect claim to say that Emanuel was with us on December.

Dates of conception always held more interest for me then the day when the baby is born.

While the Stars are a subtle influence, the instant of conception would be the moment when the DNA would set and I can find no other moment where the Stars would have as greater influence upon ones physical life then at this moment.

I liken it to a "snapshot" of the "Father" at any particular moment, with the child being the "developed photo".

David (others), do you know what day Hanukkah would have started that year?

Were there any major solar activity recorded on any of the days of Hanukkah in that year?

When was Shabbat during that Hanukkah?

"... There are, in Judaism, two types of commandments (mitzvot): the mitzvot asei, or the "Thou shalts,'" and the mitzvot lo ta'aseh, or the "Thou shalt nots." Sabbath observance comprises both. You are commanded, principally, to be joyful and restful on Shabbat, to hold great feasts, sing happy hymns, dress in your finest. Married couples even get rabbinical brownie points for having sex on the Sabbath. ..."

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Sincerely,

Christopher Theodore: Rhodes

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Reading the Blueprint is prophecy.

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