Jesus was born September 11th, 3 BC.

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This was the night of the first sighting of the new moon of Elul. The Magi in Babylon were recording this sunset sliver of the new moon on a clay tablet. The cuneiform tablet the Magi made at that hour 2000 years ago, along with thousands of others from Babylon, resides in the British Museum. It is possible that this clay tablet was inscribed by one of the famous Magi who later brought a strange set of gifts to Bethlehem. So the new moon seen by the Magi in Babylon at the very moment of Jesus being born is recorded on one of the tablets now in London. Cuneiform scholars have identified the date on this tablet as equivalent to September, 11, 3 BC.

http://petragrail.tripod.com/page5.html

[David Merrill]

...and the Star of Bethlehem is the conjunction of Regulus (heart of the Lion/Judah) with (corrected to) Jupiter; which would have shown up as a very bright star in the morning sky.

The chieftain of the sorcerers and astrologers of Babylon was a unich, therefore he had no descendants except the Order. Ergo three magi saw the signs and brought Daniel's gifts to the Messiah baby.


Regards,

David Merrill.


More on this when I get back to my notebook... I am on my Pocket PC. Thanks for the exciting confirmation Rottweiler.

[Jerry Pitts]

"Cuneiform scholars have identified the date on this tablet as equivalent to September, 11, 3 BC."

The above is very intersting. First it stipulates that the identification was made by "Cuneiform scholars", not necessarilly experts in archaeology or in the pseudoscience of 'carbon dating'. Irony exists within the given date, as a possible connection between that date and the date of 9/11/01. People have been known to be swayed by personal agendas of others without having the benefit of conclusive proof of anything.

Just because these people are 'speculating' on an "equivalent" date, does not necessarilly add any degree of importance to that date of 3 BC or of any correlation to that date and 9/11/01.

Just my personal opinion.

Jerry

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http://www.september11news.com/Sept11History.htm

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Jerry Pitts

"Cuneiform scholars have identified the date on this tablet as equivalent to September, 11, 3 BC."

The above is very intersting. First it stipulates that the identification was made by "Cuneiform scholars", not necessarilly experts in archaeology or in the pseudoscience of 'carbon dating'. Irony exists within the given date, as a possible connection between that date and the date of 9/11/01. People have been known to be swayed by personal agendas of others without having the benefit of conclusive proof of anything.

Just because these people are 'speculating' on an "equivalent" date, does not necessarilly add any degree of importance to that date of 3 BC or of any correlation to that date and 9/11/01.

Just my personal opinion.

Jerry

A welcome note of caution. However I had confirmed in my own mind the date of 9/11/03 BCE years ago. And that from hints given by the Order (also attached).


Regards,

David Merrill.


www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/key.jpg


P.S. I note a problem calculating:

The world was transfixed by the year 2000--worried about the'Y2K' bug in computers, millennial madness in cult groups, political union in Europe, and a proposal to make Mary "co-redemptrix" in the Catholic Church. While Rome flirted with blasphemy, few realized that the true 2000th lunar anniversary of the birth of Jesus was August 22, 1998, or on September 11, 1998 by the solar calendar dating we now use.

This happens a lot crossing the "0" mark between BC and AD. It was September 11, 1997, not 1998.

http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/sui...elCalendar.jpg

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http://www.september11news.com/Mysteries2.htm

[rottweiler]

Do you know what year we are in?
Adam to Flood (1656 years) +


Flood to Abraham (427 years) +


Abraham to the Exodus (430 years) +


Exodus to Temple (480 years ) +


Temple to Nebuchadnezzer (406 years) +


Nebuchadnezzer to Messiah (601 years) =


Messiah born; 4000 year (fall season, Tabernacles)


Census of Caesar and reign of Herod in 3 BC, book of Matthew, also confirmed by secular records. We then add 2000 to find year 6000,

Conclusion: fall or seventh month (Tabernacles) year 6000 =1998

Pagan Roman calendar thru astronomical data confirms setting in Revelation chapter 12: Messiah born on September 11, 3BC.


Footnote: Sept (ember) = 7
Oct (ober) = 8
Nov (ember) = 9
Dec (ember) =10

[rottweiler]

the month: the new month is marked by the day of the new moon, the full moon, the yellow moon, that day is only to mark the new month. There may be up to thirteen new month days in the year.

the week: there are four weeks made up of seven days each for the month. The first day of the first week begins after the day of the new month. For example, the first day of the first week is also the second day of the month.

the day: begins with sundown, ends the following sundown. Seventh day of that week is the Sabbath for that week. For example, the eighth, the fifteenth, the twenty-second and twenty-ninth days of the month are Sabbaths.

Time is observable from where you are, with your eyes, and the eyes of witnesses. Notice the instructions above are an interplay of days, weeks and months. Also, for those interested, understanding time is a major key, and the beginning to understanding prophecy
and The Scriptures and the intent of the Creator.

[Jerry Pitts]

numbers can be manipulated in so many various ways, that it becomes indecipherable as to the actual permutations that can be derived, based upon the variables that are involved.

Those numbers really mean little, if anything, because they are based upon other manifestations of mans' intellectual processes with which we have no real evidence to support any of their allegations as they pertain to REAL history.

Jerry

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Revelation 12:1,2,5

1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. (KJV)

From the earth’s perspective, the sun appears to go through the 12 signs of the zodiac. The constellation Virgo is the only constellation that represents a “woman.” For 20 days Virgo was “clothed” with the sun, between August 27th to September 15th. But, the exact day when “the moon was under her feet” could only occur during an eighty minute period. On September 11th of 3BC between sunset at “6:15pm and moonset at 7:45pm” (Ernest Martin, The Birth of Christ Recalculated and The Star that Astonished the World, page 85, 1996.) this event could be seen in the Palestine area. It was during those few minutes that our lord and savior, Jesus Christ was born. This event marks his birth.