The Bible & Masturbation

[weishaupt1776]

http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/h...u/masterb2.htm

[Akira]

No doggie??? ouch !

Next, "spoon" will be a no-no, cause it's doggie while "laying on your side". lol


Just my slightly off topic opinion....

It is interesting / constructive to get a studious viewpoint of the matter however... as it is a topic that needs to be clarified, as I consider physical union to be one of God's greatest gifts. Statisticly, most american women deny themselves the pleasure of a satisfying physical relationship with their partner, because of the maligned teachings of their youth.

I remember having discussions years ago, with catholic friends who attended catholic schools, with priests and nuns for instructors. They were taught, they could / should only "touch themselves" when there was a wash cloth between their private parts and their hand. To touch yourself derectly was a major no-no.

Another curious example: if you catch a european woman naked, she covers her crotch, but if you catch an american woman naked, she covers her breasts. Go figure !

Personally, I don't do porn...

At the risk of over simplification... I explain it this way.. "If I can't touch, why would I want to look?"

Most women don't look like the women in magazines... nor do most women 'perform' like the women in videos.. and these things only build unreal expectations and set the stage for disappointment.

We have become a nation of "watchers", instead of "doers". I have many friends (no offense intended) who sit in front of the tv, and drink their beer while living vicariously through the quarterback, or some other player on the team.

I don't watch football, I'd rather play. I don't watch porn, I'd rather play... lol

Between unrealistic expectations seeded by porn, and the governments undermining relationships with the temptation of promised 'financial security' from human services, is it any wonder we have a divorce rate of more than 50%?

Folks today, search, in vain, for their 'soul mate', expecting that to mean the end of disagreements or challenges within the relationship. But if someone really loves you, don't they, non judgementally, challenge you to be the best you can? And if you truely love someone, don't you want to challenge yourself, and be the best you can, for them? If you find someone that you truely love, and they love you... Don't expect them to know how to please you, teach them how.. it's half the fun.

No expectations, no disappointments..


For HIS Glory,
Akira

This one deserves some type of award.

I thought I'd seen everything, but this beats 'em all.

Henry Franklin.

[SansRecours]

I like it when someone can stand and deliver a timely message with a good grasp on the subject matter.

More threads should be that way.

Thanks for giving us a heads up on this subject, Weis

(Thre is a really bad joke on the edge of my brain regarding drummers and that topic, but I will restrain myself)

Sans

[charlesa6]

Good clarification, Akira.

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by SansRecours

I like it when someone can stand and deliver a timely message with a good grasp on the subject matter.

More threads should be that way.

Thanks for giving us a heads up on this subject, Weis

(Thre is a really bad joke on the edge of my brain regarding drummers and that topic, but I will restrain myself)

Sans

I just thought it would be a stimulating topic

[powder]

This thread is "uplifting".

[weishaupt1776]

bumped thread.

Check out the link if you haven't

See, since a Bible Believing man will not have pre-marital sex or fornicate prior to marriage; he has to do something so he doesn't cream in 2 minutes on the honeymoon night

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

bumped thread.

Check out the link if you haven't

See, since a Bible Believing man will not have pre-marital sex or fornicate prior to marriage; he has to do something so he doesn't cream in 2 minutes on the honeymoon night

Without Prejudice.
An author wrote quite an interesting treatise on masturbation. Its something I read a few years back. His take was it really depends on what goes on in your head and from what what he wrote would lead one to consider the scenario in one's head: 1) over someone elses wife; or 2) about your own wife; or 3) about a one-night stand with a prostitute you saw on the corner; or 4) about your ideal imagined wife for life or something. Now, I'm not aiming to say him to be wrong or write. And I would not say a legalistic approach to be an answer. Indeed, it doenst hurt to discuss these things. And its "funny" how a young girl struggling with sexual temptation might not get heard among so-called believers but he moment she gets pregnant she might have quite a time trying to get those same people to shut up! The irony?

Different might find themselves in different situations. For example, until one has been separated from a wife/husband, or had a wife/husband die after years of marraige and find oneself dealing with tempation and surrounded by legalistic uncaring so-called "believers" and top that off with on the edge of a society that gives no thought or concern to sexual purity--well until then one might not realize what its like to deal with such temptations as might aim to beset.

[weishaupt1776]

Originally Posted by fulltitle

Without Prejudice.
it really depends on what goes on in your head and from what what he wrote would lead one to consider the scenario in one's head

That's the truth
Becasue if you are fantasizing about someone else, that is covetousness or even adultery by even thinking about it, which is unbiblical

However, one can still masturbate without thinking of someone else or looking at pornagraphic material and fantasizing

If there are no express provisions forbidding masturbation (while not coveting or fantasizing) as there are for adultery, inbreeding, fornication, homosexuality; then there is no problem