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Old 12-23-2007, 06:06 AM
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Indeed cornering the Law as private intellectual property of the Bar.

I got an interesting PM lately - something to the effect of owning our bodies - as opposed to the Creator of our bodies owning them as His property. Also another PM about how to prepare to Rule and Reign, so to speak.

Many years back I wrote the Hebrew Laws of Moses and translated them back to English.

http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images.../HebrewLaw.gif

Interestingly this is the biblical method of preparing a king to reign. I have also written the entire Pentateuch out verbatim on a word processor.

I am not boasting, just pointing out that this may be why I simply refuse to allow attorners to keep the law from me.

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That is profound Farmer;

If I may be so bold as to comment. There is something I call advanced-resonance inductive plasma physics that comes from bible study and guidance from the Holy Spirit of God. For example mathematics can be the study of mental objects with reproducible properties (Rubin Hersh) or one can listen to Jesus at Matthew 24:15 and realize that Daniel was a wonderful mathematician. Not only did he find Jeremiah's 70 years convincing enough to convince Darius to release the Jews back into Israel, he properly decrypted MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN to be mathematically equivalent to 2,520 - a Babylonian Week = 360 x 7 = 2,520 in the small weight for measuring gold - gerahs.

Which in itself may be the ultimate mathematic according to Rubin Hersh - What is Mathematics, Really? - page 66. The study of reproducible mental objects. Every 19 years, the earth, sun and moon are within 1 day either way of the exact position they are in right now, in relation to each other. Every 318 years, they are in that relationship to within one hour either way. Every 2,520 years they align perfectly.

But how would even the most experienced astronomers ever get a glimpse of that?

How would Daniel, a unich with no heritage, ever be able to know to send gifts to the Messiah 400 years in the future by Jupiter and Regulus aligning in the morning sky on the Feast of Tabernacles?

Of course we use computer mathematics to see what the sky looked like back then. But how about 400 years prior to the First Christmas? How would they have known except some kind of rent in the Veil that typically divides us from the Divine?


Regards,

David Merrill.

The Babylonions got there week from the Sumerians. I'm not being obtuse here, I just thought I'd clarify that.

In reference to your translative talents, you may be interested to know that the Nag Hammadi Library provides a Codice Index [link]
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:16 AM
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"I used to believe when I pledged my alleigence to the flag that America stands for liberty and justice for all."

"Finally the weight of the evidence crumbled that foundation into a shifting dust."
It still does, there just happens to be enough people with enough power working to change that.
Because certain people work against it doesn't mean
that America ceases to stand for liberty and justice for all. What percentage of the colonist was it that rebelled against the King? It wasn't nearly a majority.


"And it's the same type of accumulated evidence that now leads me to believe that if I rely upon faith then I will at some point in time find myself in a state of non-existence."
Once bitten twice shy?

"But, that's me. If you feel that faith will lead you to the promised land I have no more objection with that proposition than I have an objection to a cows faith as it munches green grass contentedly under the tender care of his loving master."
I don't feel anything of the sort but I do believe beyond a shadow of a doubt.
First I chose to believe, then the Father seeing my faith gave me confirmation. This cause me to believe even more and then the Father showed me even more.
I now have an unwavering faith and the cycle continues.

By faith, the Father will confirm so that you will not have to "think" you are going to the promised land or "feel" you are going to the promised land but you will KNOW.

The promised land is an inheritance and his confirmations produce in you just a hint of what is to come.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:35 AM
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Great, EZ! That's the way it supposed to be.

But, if you think America stands for liberty and justice for all...

You need to do a whole lot of studying on that issue, and not out of your highschool textbook either.

For example, look into how many south american democratic governments this justice for all seeking country has overthrown and then installed a terroristic police state so that the robber barons who own the planet could freely steal the populations natural resources even while they kept/keep them in abject poverty.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:41 AM
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When the American Public allowed the murderers of President Kennedy to escape justice so that the guilty parties control this country with an iron fist this country no longer stood for liberty and justice in no stretch of the imagination.

If the American Public now lets those some culprits escape justice and profit from the travesty of 9-11, well, then, I'm sorry to say that the point of no return will most certainly have been traversed.
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Dane, have you inspected all of the manuscripts starting with the oldest found at the Dead Sea to the latest manuscripts for both the NT & OT and made careful notations of the variations?

If not, then I believe it would be well grounded for any forum member to determine that you would not be competent to determine whether or not certain Bible translations are corrupted or not.

If you have inspected the hebrew & greek manuscripts and weighed them against later ones and made careful determinations, then I salute you
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When the American Public allowed the murderers of President Kennedy to escape justice so that the guilty parties control this country with an iron fist this country no longer stood for liberty and justice in no stretch of the imagination.

If the American Public now lets those some culprits escape justice and profit from the travesty of 9-11, well, then, I'm sorry to say that the point of no return will most certainly have been traversed.

Interesting video:

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Old 12-23-2007, 11:12 AM
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Dane, have you inspected all of the manuscripts starting with the oldest found at the Dead Sea to the latest manuscripts for both the NT & OT and made careful notations of the variations?

If not, then I believe it would be well grounded for any forum member to determine that you would not be competent to determine whether or not certain Bible translations are corrupted or not.

If you have inspected the hebrew & greek manuscripts and weighed them against later ones and made careful determinations, then I salute you

You are most cetainly right, weis, and I stand corrected.

The Bible is 100 percent correct and straight from the hand of God.

I never intended bringing these subjects up here in the first place.

Legal topics are so much safer.

So, I guess, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

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Dane, have you inspected all of the manuscripts starting with the oldest found at the Dead Sea to the latest manuscripts for both the NT & OT and made careful notations of the variations?

If not, then I believe it would be well grounded for any forum member to determine that you would not be competent to determine whether or not certain Bible translations are corrupted or not.

If you have inspected the hebrew & greek manuscripts and weighed them against later ones and made careful determinations, then I salute you

You are most cetainly right, weis, and I stand corrected.

The Bible is 100 percent correct and straight from the hand of God.

I never intended bringing these subjects up here in the first place.

Legal topics are so much safer.

So, I guess, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

If I wasn't too old I'd go join up!
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:17 AM
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Thanks Mrg, I'll try to remember to watch that when I go see my sister.

(She has broadband)
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:48 AM
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The evidence of Biblical truth comes from seeing modern-day secular proof, as events and nations in history unfold as shown by prophecy, and just by the basic descriptions making sense.

The Bible is uncannily accurate on so many subjects, and I dont know greek or hebrew or latin, and I have only grazed the surface a few times.

Having seen this, it gets to the point that I must, by the weight of evidence, give credit to to the whole thing.

If there is reasonable belief (just like the cops!) then there is cause for process- reason>faith>obedience. If you have the faith to obey the Gospel you will surely inherit eternal life, whatever that is, because on everything more mundane, the Bible has proven correct.

Do what you can, and a little more. Faith will take you along that way.

The root of reason is the First Cause in the Universe, Logos: LOGIC, the Word. In the Beginning there was the Word/Logic, which is both musical and mathematical, and all else proceeds accordingly.

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