"A Time to Kill" vs "Though Shall Not Kill"

Originally Posted by HenryBowman

Anyone here ever read Claire Wolfe, or heard her famous quote?

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

I think that quote has outlived it's applicability...
.

Yes,

From 101 things to do till the revolution.
It is now 179 things to do till the revolution.

I think I know what you mean but please explain "I think that quote has outlived it's applicability..." like I am a 6 year old.

Hear Ye, Hear Ye!!!

Apparently, the general consensus is it's not "too early to shoot the bastards" any longer.

Sincerely,
truth

Thanks.


Thought So.

Her watch is broke...

[BoyntonStu]

We need to be praying first for those that are misinformed and then we need to teach them the ways of God through His word, not judging or condemning. Remembering that once we were lost in trespass and sin.

iamfreeru2[/quote]



Does this statement mean that you will endeavor to correct the error of translation?

BoyntonStu

Originally Posted by iamfreeru2

We need to be praying first for those that are misinformed and then we need to teach them the ways of God through His word, not judging or condemning. Remembering that once we were lost in trespass and sin.

iamfreeru2

I pray for them every day. I pray for the fulfillment of Psalms 18:30-42 in my life concerning "them."

Even Jesus used violence against the "moneychangers." Isn't that what we are faced with today?

If it's not all commerce, I am a fool, because that's the way I see it.

HB

[iamfreeru2]

Stu,

As I have already stated I do not believe there to be an error in the KJV. You have read my post and know that I believe there has been a misinterpretation. I will alsways teach the truth of God's word to any that will listen. That means giving His interpretation of the Scriptures and not mine or man's. There are false so-called translations and I have exposed them to others in the past and I will continue to do so. It is up to the individual man or woman to believe or disbelieve. I let the Holy Spirit convict, as that is not my place. Only to share the truth.

HB,

Yeshua was against the actions and never against the person. And that is what I am against. I will continue to pray for anyone that does not know Yeshua. Remember what Yeshua said: John 8:7 "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Also see Matthew 7:1 and Romans 2:1.

We are never forced to commit violence. Yeshua never used violence, only righteous indignation. Violence is not the answer. Deuteronomy 32:35 says: "Vengeance is Mine, and retribution. In due time their foot will slip; For the day of their calamity is near. And the impending things hastening upon them." Also see Heb 10:30. I leave the vengeance to God and place my trust in Him. He has given me the tools necessary to use in this state of affairs. He knows best how to defeat the enemy and I will follow Him.

iamfreeru2

Originally Posted by iamfreeru2

HB,

Yeshua was against the actions and never against the person. And that is what I am against. I will continue to pray for anyone that does not know Yeshua. Remember what Yeshua said: John 8:7 "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Also see Matthew 7:1 and Romans 2:1.

We are never forced to commit violence. Yeshua never used violence, only righteous indignation. Violence is not the answer. Deuteronomy 32:35 says: "Vengeance is Mine, and retribution. In due time their foot will slip; For the day of their calamity is near. And the impending things hastening upon them." Also see Heb 10:30. I leave the vengeance to God and place my trust in Him. He has given me the tools necessary to use in this state of affairs. He knows best how to defeat the enemy and I will follow Him.

iamfreeru2

I guess we just see it differently.

Matthew 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves.

Does not sound Non-Violent to me.

Besides, the lady caught in adultery was a non-agressor. She was harming no one. The bible says Adultery is a sin against our own body.

Very different from harming someone else.

If I cannot defend myself, I am wrong in suing those that have wronged me.

There must be balance.

We will just agree to disagree on this, OK?

[iamfreeru2]

HB,

For the most part I agree with you. We should be able to defend ourselves and that I am not talking about here. Yeshua did not use violence against them He used righteous anger for they were doing business in the house of God and were desecrating it. The Scripture says: Eph. 4:26 "BE ANGRY, AND YET DO NOT SIN;do not let the sun go down on your anger." When I think of violence I think of physical fighting and killing, shooting etc. Is this righteous anger or is this letting the sun go down on your anger (sin)? Always see things with a Godly perpective. It is the same when we dicipline our kids. Do we do it out of anger (sin) and abuse or out of love wanting them to know right from wrong? A long as we look to God and His instruction on how to deal with a situation we will never go wrong. If we keep Him out of it then we are looking to get burned. That is all I am saying here.

Quote from HB:
Besides, the lady caught in adultery was a non-agressor. She was harming no one. The bible says Adultery is a sin against our own body.

Since when does God differentiate from one sin to another? Sin is sin in God's eyes. It matters not if you murder or commit adultery. It is all the same to Him. If it is not please show me in His word where this is said. Just because the money changers did what they did does that give us liberty to commit sin ourselves? Be careful how you answer that question.

I dunno....

Giving Sampson superhuman strength to kill 3,000 Philistines with the jaw-bone of an ass sure sounds "violent" to me, as does "lake of fire" and all the rest.

Throw in "...even the thought of foolishness is sin..." (somewhere in Romans, I think), "...Jacob have I love, but Esau have I hated...," and stuff like that, and there's room for all sorts of "interpretations" and "applications."

Randy