The Koran How it verifies that Jesus was the Son of God

[rottweiler]

Who was Mohammed? He was born in 590AD. He had a human father, a human mother named Amina, and a foster mother named Halima. Mohammed never claimed to be divine. He claims there is one God, and that he, Mohammed, was a prophet (C-18). At 40 years of age, he was called to preach the bounty of God. He sought Truth, retired to a cave at the side of Mount Hirah (3 miles from Mecca) for peaceful contemplation. He married at 25 to Khadija, a noble lady of great wealth.

C-41 claims inspiration from God to Mohammed, and it was recorded by pen. Each chapter in the Koran is known as a Sura, which means "a step". Each verse is called an Ayat, which means "a sign".

If Jesus Christ is the Son of God, there should be:

An earlier prophesy of his birth which his coming fulfills;

His coming, conception, or birth ought to be supernatural, a miracle, which can only be explained if he were the Son of God;

His life should be highlighted with miracles and his teachings should withstand the passage of time;

Jesus should conquer death.

The Koran refers to Jesus as a righteous prophet, an apostle to Israel. What else did Mohammed say about Jesus? (The text translations of the following verses are from A. Usogh Allee).

S-5-110: "By my leave, thou healest those born blind, and the lepers. By my leave and behold thou bringeth forth the dead."

Islam proclaims Jesus a wonderful prophet, a healer, and one who brought the dead back to life. No such acts or powers are ascribed to Mohammed. So, the Koran itself ascribes greater power to Jesus than Mohammed.

In Oud Emrom 5-45, Jesus is referred to as, "the greatest above all in this world and the world to come."

S-5-46: "And, in their footsteps, we sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the law that had come before him. We sent him the gospel. Therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the law that had come before him. A guidance and an admonition to those who fear God."
Jesus came to confirm the law. The prophesies were to be confirmed by Jesus (Matthew 5:17, Luke 24:44). The Koran is saying that the prophesy of Jesus was foretold, and that his coming was a confirmation of the law which was written prior to his existence. This is the first proof of divinity.

The Koran says the following about the grandmother of Jesus when the little baby, Mary (the mother of Jesus) was born:

S-3-36: "Oh my Lord, behold, I am delivered of a female child and God knew best. I have named her Mary, and I commend her and her offspring to vied protection from the evil one, the rejected."

S-3-37: "Write graciously that her Lord accept her (Mary), he made her grow in purity and beauty. To the care of Zacharia was she assigned. Every time that he entered her chamber to see her, he found her supplied with sustenance. He said, 'Oh Mary, whence comes this to you?' She said, 'From God. For God provides sustenance to whom he pleases without measure.'"

S-3-42,43,45,47: "Behold, the angel said, 'Oh, Mary, God has chosen thee and purified thee: chosen thee above the women of all nations. Oh, Mary, worship the Lord devoutly, prostrate thyself and bow down in prayer with those who bow down.' Behold, the angel said, 'Oh, Mary, God giveth thee glad tidings of a word from Him. His name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the hereafter, and the company of those nearest to God. He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. He shall be of the company of the righteous.' Mary replied, 'Oh, my Lord, how shall I have a son when no man has touched me?' The angel replied, 'Even so, God createth what he willeth when he has decreed a plan. He but said to it Be, and so it is.'"

S-3-40: "He (Joseph) said, 'Oh, Lord, how can I have a son when I am very old, and my wife is barren?' Allah said, 'Thus Allah does what He wills.'"

This alone proves the deity of Jesus Christ, that he is the Son of God, and not just the son of man. The angel said, in S-3-45, that his name would be "Christ" Jesus. "Christ" means the anointed one. Mohammed was not referred to as Christ. He was born normally, with a Mom and Pop. Jesus was born without a father!

The Koran states that Mary was a virgin, the angels brought the glad tidings of the coming birth of Jesus to Mary. Jesus was born of the Will of God. There is no prophesy about the birth of Mohammed, Moses, Abraham, Noah, or any other prophet. (Isaiah 7:14 foretells Jesus' virgin birth).

S-3-48,49: "God will teach him the book of wisdom, the law of the gospel, and appoint him an apostle to the child of Israel with this message; I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s leave. And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and the dead, by God’s leave."

Mohammed wasn’t given the power to heal, or to raise people from the dead. Only Jesus. Only if He were the Son of God would Jesus be without sin. Islam shares the belief that Jesus was sinless. It speaks of the sin of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and even Mohammed, but the Koran never speaks about any sin of Jesus Christ.

S-4-157,158: "We killed Jesus Christ, the son of Mary, the apostle of God. But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them. All those who differ therein are full of doubts with no certain knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for assuredly they killed him not. Nay, God raised him up unto himself, and God is exhaulted in power, wise."
This is proof that Jesus conquered death and is divine. This shows the resurrection by saying, "Nay, God raised him up unto himself" (Like 24:46, Acts 2:32). What is the importance of this?

S-4-159: "And there is none of the people of the book, but must believe in Him before his death. And on the day of judgment, He will be a witness against them."
The Koran says Jesus was put to physical death, God raised him up, and on judgment day, he will be a witness against those who crucified him. The Koran implies that Jesus is in Heaven, yet Mohammed has yet to be raised up.

Unfortunately, under Islamic law, a Muslim who leaves his faith must be killed. Does this sound like love or forgiveness? No. This sounds like threat and coercion.

Mohammed did not die to pay for your sins, he was not risen from the dead. Therefore, he cannot save you, nor can you save yourself. The scripture says the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved (Acts 16:31).

Preaching Christ is not Outlawed in Muslum Countries
It is popularly believed that it is against the law to preach Christ in Arab countries. This is not true, because their own scriptures preach Christ. What they outlaw is "Christianity." For example, in Afghanistan, a group of Americans were on trial for preaching Christianity, and this violated the law of that land. Those Americans went to that country under the pretence of giving "humanitarian aid" to Afghanistan, and they were using that as a cover to preach Christianity; thus engaging in deceit. Secondly, their mission was to set up "churches" in Afghanistan. Well, what does scripture say?

Acts 7:48, "Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands;"
Acts 17:24, "God...dwelleth not in temples made with hands;"

Now, if Christ taught that God does not dwell in physical buildings, but Christianty teaches God does dwell in physical buildings, is Christianity teaching the same thing as Christ? No.

And it is a fact that in most Arab countries, believers in Christ and Muslums live side by side with each other.
http://devoted.to/truth

[Jerry Pitts]

Magnificent depiction of the Deity of Christ. Thank you for having contemplated such research and my special thank you for posting this information to the forum.

Jerry Carlos

[trooper2ls]

I agree with your post.. but one thing I don't understand is why the Jewish people over in the middle east are at odds with the Muslims. After all according to Exodus 3:1

"And Moses became a shepherd of the flock of Jethro, the priest of Midian"

Wasn't Jethro a direct descendant of Abraham? I'm not an expert in the Muslim faith.. but I was under the impression that it branched from him... and he was Moses's father in-law... and Moses led the Jewish people from bondage. It never ceases to amaze me how organized religions take sides like they do.. after all it is the same God we all talking about.

I have studied a lot of religion in my life and agree with Jewish, Torah, Prophets and Writings (Old Testament). But one thing that doesn't make sense to me is that if the Torah, Prophets and Writings were in the perfect inspired word of God.. then why did the council of Nicea in 325 A.D. feel the need to edit it?

I have a Stone edition of the original hebrew books and the english transliteration of it and have spent years comparing it with various versions of the "Old Testiment" and have found hundreds of edits.

One such example is Pslam 51:7 .. in most cannonized texts it reads:

"My you purify me with hyssop, that I may be clean; May you wash me, that I may become whiter even than snow"

If you go to the Hebrew writings.. it appears under 51:9 as:

"My you purify me from inherited sin, with hyssop, that I may be clean; May you wash me, that I may become whiter even than snow"

The phrase "from inherited sin" was omitted in cannonized text.. doesn't that change the meaning from "Taking a bath" to "Regaining loss of God's way" .. most of the edits in cannonized text shift meaning in a similar way. Sounds like attorners subtle changes of contracts and statues of today.

Ancient texts make interesting study and debate. There is so much that has been distorted over the generations and so much that has been withheld.

If we can all just remember "Do unto others..." then we'll all live in harmony one day.

..J

[netwrkranger]

Having been a former Muslim, Muslims do not believe that Jesus is the son of God in any way, shape, or form.

Muslims believe that Jesus was definitely a prophet, a man and nothing more. Muslims believe that Muhammad was the last prophet of God bringing God's final message to humanity.

In fact, one of the primary sayings of Islam is that "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger".

Unfortunately, I gave away my Qur'ans, else I would search for each one of these passages and refute them line by line. I will have to consider this entire post misinformation.

Here are a list of suras (chapters) of the Qur'an. Show me in this list where there is a sura titled Oud Emrom : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sura

Also, the cites used are incorrect. If they were true cites they would list the sura name.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryam_%28sura%29
Actually, in this sura, God describes those who say that Isa was the Son of God as saying something blasphemous, as God is the omnipotent creator and all the creatures in earth and in heaven are God's servants. Maryam is venerated as "the Lady of the women of the world" (سيدة نساء العالمين) but not as the mother of God.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sura
Surah (sometimes spelt "Surah" سورة sūrah, plural "Suar" سور) is an Arabic term literally meaning "something enclosed or surrounded by a fence or wall." The term is commonly used to mean a "chapter" of the Qur'an.

Disclaimer: This post is not to be interpreted as an endorsement of Islam. At this point in my life, I personally am weary of all monotheistic religions and consider them control tools by elites. Nor is it meant to denigrate the monotheistic religions for those who believe in them fervently. To each their own. If what you do brings you peace in your heart and harms no one else, then all is righteous (and in accordance with Natural Law).

Caveat Redemptor (Verify for yourself),
netwrkranger

[rottweiler]

Islam's prophet, Muhammad, believed Jesus was the Messiah, Allah's anointed messenger. Allah's people (Muslims) are told to listen to Allah's messengers (Koran, 4:171; 5: 111).

4:171 O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, [180] and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. [181] Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God.

5:111 AND [remember the time] when I inspired the white-garbed ones: [136] Believe in Me and in My Apostle!" They answered: "We believe; and bear Thou witness that we have surrendered ourselves [unto Thee]."

Allah took Jesus to heaven where he awaits until the day of judgment when he will return to earth (3: 55). Muslim traditions teach that Muhammad died not knowing if he would be judged worthy to enter Paradise - where God has already placed Jesus. Muhammad is Dead and buried in Saudi Arabia. Jesus is alive both with God in heaven (paradise) and in Spirit with his followers on Earth. (Koran 3:55; 4:158,159)

This is the great difference between Jesus and Muhammad. according to the Quran/Koran, Jesus is alive in Heaven with God. Islam affirms Muhammad is dead and buried.

3:55 Lo! God said: "O Jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto Me, and cleanse thee of [the presence of] those who are bent on denying the truth; and I shall place those who follow thee [far] above those who are bent on denying the truth, unto the Day of Resurrection. In the end, unto Me you all must return, and I shall judge between you with regard to all on which you were wont to differ.

4:158 nay, God exalted him unto Himself [172] - and God is indeed almighty, wise.
4:159 Yet there is not one of the followers of earlier revelation who does not, at the moment of his death, grasp the truth about Jesus; [173] and on the Day of Resurrection he [himself] shall bear witness to the truth against them.
http://www.islam-101.org/

[netwrkranger]

Isa is Jesus in Arabic.
Marium is Mary in Arabic.

Sura: An-Nisa (The Women)
[4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.

Sura: Al-Ma'ida (The Table)
[5.111] And when I revealed to the disciples, saying, Believe in Me and My apostle, they said: We believe and bear witness that we submit (ourselves).

Sura: Al-i-Imran (The Family of Imran)
[3.55] And when Allah said: O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed.

Sura: An-Nisa (The Women)
[4.158] Nay! Allah took him up to Himself; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

Sura: An-Nisa (The Women)
[4.159] And there is not one of the followers of the Book but most certainly believes in this before his death, and on the day of resurrection he (Isa) shall be a witness against them.


Qur'an: http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html
Qur'an: http://etext.virginia.edu/toc/modeng...c/HolKora.html

Caveat Redemptor,
netwrkranger

[netwrkranger]

Sura: Al-Ma'ida (The Table)
[5.110] When Allah will say: O Isa son of Marium! Remember My favor on you and on your mother, when I strengthened you I with the holy Spirit, you spoke to the people in the cradle and I when of old age, and when I taught you the Book and the wisdom and the Taurat and the Injeel; and when you determined out of clay a thing like the form of a bird by My permission, then you breathed into it and it became a bird by My permission, and you healed the blind and the leprous by My permission; and when you brought forth the dead by My permission; and when I withheld the children of Israel from you when you came to them with clear arguments, but those who disbelieved among them said: This is nothing but clear enchantment.

Sura: Al-Ma'ida (The Table)
[5.46] And We sent after them in their footsteps Isa, son of Marium, verifying what was before him of the Taurat and We gave him the Injeel in which was guidance and light, and verifying what was before it of Taurat and a guidance and an admonition for those who guard (against evil).

Sura: Al-i-Imran (The Family of Imran)
[3.36] So when she brought forth, she said: My Lord! Surely I have brought it forth a female-- and Allah knew best what she brought forth-- and the male is not like the female, and I have named it Marium, and I commend her and her offspring into Thy protection from the accursed Shaitan.

Sura: Al-i-Imran (The Family of Imran)
[3.37] So her Lord accepted her with a good acceptance and made her grow up a good growing, and gave her into the charge of Zakariya; whenever Zakariya entered the sanctuary to (see) her, he found with her food. He said: O Marium! whence comes this to you? She said: It is from Allah. Surely Allah gives to whom He pleases without measure.

Qur'an: http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html
Qur'an: http://etext.virginia.edu/toc/modeng...c/HolKora.html

[Shoonra]

The Koran does not say that Jesus was the Son of God, nor that Jesus was the co-equal of God.

I quote from the Koran translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali (1934) which is still being printed by Islamic publishing houses, and this translation is confirmed by comparing it with the translation by Mohammed Marmaduke William Pickthall (1930) and the translation by Nessim Joseph Dawood (1978).

Surah 4:171, "Oh People of the Book: ... Do not say 'Trinity': desist: it will be better for your: for Allah is One God: glory be to Him: (far Exalted is He) above having a son. ...."

6:101 "To Him {Allah} is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He has no consort? ..."

9:30 The Jews call Uzair {=Ezra} a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the Son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth: (in this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!"

10:68 "They say, 'God (Allah) has begotten a Son!' Glory be to Him! He is Self-Sufficient! His are all things in the heavens and on earth! No warrant have you for this! Do you say about Allah what you do not know?"

17:111 "Say: 'Praise be to Allah, Who begets no son, and has no partner in (His) dominion; nor (needs) He any to protect Him from humiliation: yes, magnify Him for His greatness and glory!'"

18:4-5 "Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, 'Allah has begotten a son': {5} They do not have any knowledge of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying. What you say is nothing but falsehood!"

19: 88-92 "They say; '(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!' {89} Indeed you have put forth a thing most monstrous! {90} At it the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin, {91} that they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious. {92} For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son."

23:91 "No son did Allah beget, not is there any god along with Him: .... Glory to Allah! (He is free) from the (sort of) things they attribute to Him!"

37:151-152 "Is it not that they say, from their own invention, {152} 'Allah has begotten children'? But they are liars!"

And several more such statements.

[rottweiler]

Son of God is a euphemism. Jesus is not literally God's son anymore than any of you are citizens of the United States.

The Koran tells how Allah anointed Jesus, through a virgin birth to be the Messiah - Savior of the world, nearly five hundred and fifty years before Muhammad was born.

Muslims believe the Koran was written by God and is God's message to all people. If Jesus is what the Koran teaches he is/was, it is impossible for Muhammad to have replaced Jesus. There can be only one Messiah.

Jesus did the Messiah's work (opening heaven) 550 years before Islam's Prophet was born.

As God's messenger, Jesus explained, simplified, and demonstrated God's will and message, although the Jews did not believe in him. Jesus' "Good News" - the Gospel - is about God's love and forgiveness for all mankind. Muhammad's revelations, recorded in the Koran/Qur'an teach that:

1. Jesus was sent by Allah, who supported him with the Holy Spirit, to tell the world Allah's will (2: 87; 5: 110-117*).


2. Allah gave to the world Jesus, exalted him above all others, and supported him with the Holy Spirit as proof of his sovereignty (2: 253*).


3. Allah caused the miracle birth of John the Baptist to the aged Zechariah and his barren wife so John could be the messenger to announce Jesus as the Messiah (3: 33-41*).


4. Allah appointed Mary to be the virgin mother of Jesus, the Messiah (3:42-45; 19:12-22; 21:90*).


5. Jesus would be righteous [sinless] all his life (3:46; 6:86; 19:19*).


6. Jesus would be raised from the dead (19: 33,34*).


7. Jesus, Messiah and son of Mary, crucified, appeared dead and was taken up by Allah himself (4:157,158; 3:55*). He did not "appear to be alive" because he was dead. Crucifixion was the Roman method of execution similar to hanging. No one survived being crucified. See # 6. above.


8. Jesus was a messenger of Allah, who is to be believed (4:171*).


9. Allah taught Jesus his religion and commanded Jesus to establish it (42:13; 43:63*).


10. Allah caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow [the prophets], gave him the Gospel, and placed compassion and mercy in the hearts of those who followed him (57:27*).

11. Allah strengthened the group of Jews who believed Jesus and his message, so they overcame those who disbelieved (61:14*).


12. The true message of Jesus and the prophets was perverted by religious leaders who were condemned by Allah (9:31*).


13. Long before the Prophet Muhammad, Allah revealed the Torah and the Gospel for mankind's guidance (3:3, 4, 48, 65*).


14. Allah taught Jesus the Scripture and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel. Allah would do miracles through Jesus and make him a messenger to Israel (3:48, 49*).


15. Allah gathered Jesus and caused him to be resurrected and ascended to Allah himself (3:55; 4: 158*).


16. Allah bestowed the Gospel on Jesus to be a light (5: 46*).


17. Observing the Torah and the Gospel brings nourishment from above (5:66*).


18. Those who went astray from Allah's commands were cursed by both David and Jesus (5:78*).


19. Allah inspired Jesus' Disciples to believe in Jesus and his message (5:110*).


20. Jesus and his Disciples were Allah's helpers (61:6,14*).


21. Believe in all that was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received (2:136*). (Muhammad is not named in this ayah as a prophet who is to be believed. Why?)


22. The Surrender, al-Islam, is Islam and Muslims are to be surrendered to Allah's will and guidance (3:19*), as had been revealed to Abraham by God and explained by Jesus.

[Jerry Pitts]

Originally Posted by rottweiler

Son of God is a euphemism. Jesus is not literally God's son anymore than any of you are citizens of the United States.

My oh my! Would you be willing to wager the eternal status of your spirit on that statement?

Jerry Carlos