Todays "Bible" Lesson From Proverbs

[BoyntonStu]

Beating your children with a rod is a sure sign of parental love. 13:24

God made bad people for the pleasure of punishing them. 16:4

Beat your children and don't stop just because they cry. 19:18

"The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly." 20:30

"The wicked shall be a ransom for the righteous." 21:18

Beating your children will make them less foolish. Have you beaten your child today? 22:15

Beat your children hard and often. Don't worry about hurting them. You may break a few bones and cause some brain damage, but it isn't going to kill them. And even if they do die, they'll be better off. They'll thank you in heaven for beating the hell out of them. 23:13-14

Whip horses and strike the backs of foolish people with rods. 26:3

Beating your children will make them wise. 29:15

Beat your servants (slaves), as though they were your children. 29:19

If you mock your father or disobey your mother, the ravens will pick out your eyeballs and the eagles will eat them. 30:17

"The wringing of the nose bringeth forth blood." 30:33


Did your parents follow "The Bible" and beat you? Do you beat your children?


BoyntonStu

[RickA]

LOL...What would you propose, talk the hell out of them?, or stone the hell out of them?

Disobedient children used to be stoned.

All should fear God.

If the father fears God and his wife is submitted to him, she too fears God. Now, with the father and mother fearing God and the two rearing the child(ren) according, the child(ren) will grow to fear God as well. When that has been accomplished, spiritual growth begins.

To be quite blunt, if the father and mother fear God, all become children.

You really should seek proffesional help! Run as fast as you can to your nearby Calvary Chapel. Tell 'em God sent you. They can help.

Originally Posted by BoyntonStu

Beating your children with a rod is a sure sign of parental love. 13:24

God made bad people for the pleasure of punishing them. 16:4

Beat your children and don't stop just because they cry. 19:18

"The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly." 20:30

"The wicked shall be a ransom for the righteous." 21:18

Beating your children will make them less foolish. Have you beaten your child today? 22:15

Beat your children hard and often. Don't worry about hurting them. You may break a few bones and cause some brain damage, but it isn't going to kill them. And even if they do die, they'll be better off. They'll thank you in heaven for beating the hell out of them. 23:13-14

Whip horses and strike the backs of foolish people with rods. 26:3

Beating your children will make them wise. 29:15

Beat your servants (slaves), as though they were your children. 29:19

If you mock your father or disobey your mother, the ravens will pick out your eyeballs and the eagles will eat them. 30:17

"The wringing of the nose bringeth forth blood." 30:33


Did your parents follow "The Bible" and beat you? Do you beat your children?


BoyntonStu

[rushpat]

BoytonStu,

I guess someone who called themselves Christian did something to hurt you, right? That's what usually causes the backlash against the Bible. Okay, let's go through this one by one:


Boyton Version: Beating your children with a rod is a sure sign of parental love. 13:24

NIV version: He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.

"Rod" = discipline. You discipline a child if you love him. Ever seen an undisciplined child? I have. Everyone is miserable, especially the child, because no one cared enough to show them there are consequences to misbehaving. What will happen to them when the real world eats them up?



BV: Beat your children and don't stop just because they cry. 19:18

NIV: Discipline your son, for in that there is hope; do not be a willing party to his death.

Do I need to repeat myself here? If you don't discipline your child, the world will eat them alive later. BTW, beating here doesn't mean maiming, it means spanking.



BV: "The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly." 20:30

NIV: Blows and wounds cleanse away evil, and beatings purge the inmost being.

Sounds like you have a real issue with discipline.




BV: Beating your children will make them less foolish. Have you beaten your child today? 22:15

NIV: Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him.

We are both sounding like a broken record here. If you don't discipline a child, he'll be worse off for it. Are you confusing this with true physical abuse?



BV: "The wicked shall be a ransom for the righteous." 21:18
NIV: The wicked become a ransom for the righteous, and the unfaithful for the upright.

What is your complaint here?



BV: Beat your children hard and often. Don't worry about hurting them. You may break a few bones and cause some brain damage, but it isn't going to kill them. And even if they do die, they'll be better off. They'll thank you in heaven for beating the hell out of them. 23:13-14

NIV: Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die. 14 Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death.

Wow, your bias is really seeping through here. So, you think that spanking will cause brain damage and broken bones? Have you ever had children? If so, I'm sure that "time out" is really working well, right?


Followed by many, many more about discipline, which this guy obviously doesn't believe in.


Then, the last one:

BV: The wringing of the nose bringeth forth blood." 30:33
NIV: For as churning the milk produces butter, and as twisting the nose produces blood, so stirring up anger produces strife."

Never heard of an analogy? Besides, is it not true that if you wring your own nose, you'll get a nosebleed?




BV: Did your parents follow "The Bible" and beat you? Do you beat your children?

Yep, my parents spanked me as a child when I was bad, and therefore I was well behaved. No permanent problems, just a little discomfort and embarassment at the time. I don't have kids yet, but when I do, they'll get spanked if they misbehave. As a result, they'll do much better in life than kids that are hellions because their parents wanted to put them in "time out" or "have a conference" with them.

Boynton, you really have some serious hate issues with Christianity.

[weishaupt1776]

The thing that craxx me up about people who claim to "objectively" "critique" "religion" - so called, is that they just focus on the Bible.

Stu, since your so "objective" & "scientific" , we're waiting to hear your critiques on the "contradictions" in the Hindu Vedas & Upanishads, the writings of Buddah, the Koran, The Book of Moromon, etc . .

[BoyntonStu]

[quote=rushpat]BoytonStu,

I guess someone who called themselves Christian did something to hurt you, right? That's what usually causes the backlash against the Bible. Okay, let's go through this one by one:


Interesting, not one quote of mine was from the Christian Bible.


What gives you the right to make the statement: "Rod" = discipline?

Define discipline. What I get from the verses is that rod = rod.

BTW "Rule of Thumb" meant: do not beat your child with a rod wider than the width of your thumb. For many, many years, everyone knew exactly what "Rod" meant. What it did not mean was "Discipline".

BoyntonStu

And for our 1776 man,

The "contradictions" in the Hindu Vedas & Upanishads, the writings of Buddah, the Koran, The Book of Moromon, etc . . will have their chance whenever one of them comes on this forum claiming that they were called by 'God' to mission to us.

But again, you alway go off on a tangent instead of addressing the subject at hand. I am not interested in how you believe, how you act, your ethics, or your morals. I am interested in discussing the subject in an objective manner.

[BoyntonStu]

[quote=weishaupt1776][b]The thing that craxx me up about people who claim to "objectively" "critique" "religion" - so called, is that they just focus on the Bible.

Can there be religion with NO "Bible"?

Looking at all the quotes folks make, it seems that they need the "Bible" as a foundation for their beliefs.

Therefore, unless you can accept the words on the paper, from where else does 'religious' information come from?

BoyntonStu

What amazes me is how many times you reel members in with this

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You keep spoutin, and they keep trying to "inform" you, as if you were just confused...


ROFLMAO...


I know you ain't here with an open mind, in fact, you're prolly from Quatloos or the Fed.

Bob