Who was the mother of Enoch?

[BoyntonStu]

According to the words in all versions of the 'Bible', there was Adam, Eve, Cain, and Abel.

No other humans in the world but these four people.

Cain kills Abel and thus there were three.

Cain has a son named Enoch.

Who was the mother of Enoch?

BoyntonStu

[DeJure]

Who were the IN-breeders of BoyntonStu?

[suijuris]

Come on Dejure, if you don't like what he posts then don't read it, particuarly if that is the only response you can come up with. You sink below the level you believe BS to be on with that reply.

BS, I don't have the answer to your question; I was not there at that period of time.

What do you believe is the best record of history that we have from that time period?

[scottinalaska]

BS, that's easy. And oh, btw, you forgot about Seth in your brief eschalogical survey.

Even though only these three males are mentioned by name(Cain, Abel, Seth), Adam and Eve had other children. In Genesis 5:4 a statement sums up the life of Adam and Eve—‘And the days of Adam after he had fathered Seth were eight hundred years. And he fathered sons and daughters.’ This does not say when they were born. Many could have been born in the 130 years (Genesis 5:3) before Seth was born.
Thus, Cain married his sister.
Many people immediately reject the conclusion that Adam and Eve’s sons and daughters married each other by appealing to the law against brother-sister intermarriage. Some say that you cannot marry your relation. Actually, if you don’t marry your relation, you don’t marry a human! A wife is related to her husband even before they marry because all people are descendants of Adam and Eve—all are of ‘one blood.’ The law forbidding marriage between close relatives was not given until the time of Moses (Leviticus 18–20). Provided marriage was one man to one woman for life (based on Genesis 1 and 2), there was no disobedience to God’s law originally when close relatives (even brothers and sisters) married each other.
So Mr. Stu, I hope that helps in your legitimate question. And for the rest of us that might have had that crawling around in our heads, I hope this helps too.
Scottinalaska

[BoyntonStu]

Originally Posted by scottinalaska

BS, that's easy. And oh, btw, you forgot about Seth in your brief eschalogical survey.

Even though only these three males are mentioned by name(Cain, Abel, Seth), Adam and Eve had other children. In Genesis 5:4 a statement sums up the life of Adam and Eve—‘And the days of Adam after he had fathered Seth were eight hundred years. And he fathered sons and daughters.’ This does not say when they were born. Many could have been born in the 130 years (Genesis 5:3) before Seth was born.
Thus, Cain married his sister.
Many people immediately reject the conclusion that Adam and Eve’s sons and daughters married each other by appealing to the law against brother-sister intermarriage. Some say that you cannot marry your relation. Actually, if you don’t marry your relation, you don’t marry a human! A wife is related to her husband even before they marry because all people are descendants of Adam and Eve—all are of ‘one blood.’ The law forbidding marriage between close relatives was not given until the time of Moses (Leviticus 18–20). Provided marriage was one man to one woman for life (based on Genesis 1 and 2), there was no disobedience to God’s law originally when close relatives (even brothers and sisters) married each other.
So Mr. Stu, I hope that helps in your legitimate question. And for the rest of us that might have had that crawling around in our heads, I hope this helps too.
Scottinalaska

Scot,

A good answer based on the 'facts'.

However, let me point out another problem, why was Cain 'marked'? Who were the people (not his brothers or sisters) who would need to see the mark?


Now for the moral issues.


'God' creates a system whereby sons can have sex with their mothers, fathers with their daughters, fathers with their sons, mothers with their daughters, brothers with their brothers, and brothers with their sisters.

'God' made his things and they were 'good'.

For many generations, this 'moral' model was in effect.

Can you imagine living in those times and having sex with your mother, father, brother, or sister? Would you have done it joyfully without any hesitation or guilt?

What is the moral to the story in the 'Bible'?

What is your gut feeling about a 'creator' of such a system?


BoyntonStu

[BoyntonStu]

Originally Posted by suijuris

BS, I don't have the answer to your question; I was not there at that period of time.

What do you believe is the best record of history that we have from that time period?

What time period (state the years) are you talking about?

BoyntonStu

[DeJure]

I post that way, because no matter how reasonable your questions or points are, B.S. doesn't really care what your responses are. It's like he asks questions whiich he already has his own answer for. He is not inquiring for any sort of intellectual edification, so I am posting sensless garbage like I have been because I believe it is on the same level as his unwillingness to really reason and I do not wish to spend a bunch of time addressing points which he already has his own pre-conceived answer for.

This can be evidenced by seeing the difference between sadie's posts and B.S.'s. Sadie asked a series of questions in an inquiring spirit and was blessed by imfreeru2's posts directing her to some scriptures to study.
B.S. is not inquiring in the same way as he already has his own answers and if he does search some verses which were suggested, it will only be for the purpose of an attempt to refute & to fortify his preconceived answer

[iamfreeru2]

DJ,

The best thing to do is just not answer Stu. Let him state what he wants to state. There are many on this forum that know the truth. If one has a legitimate question, like Sadie I will gladly respond. I will not stoop to the same level as Stu. Just let him be and all this strife will end. Strife is what the enemy wants, so stop feeding into it. Peace be with you.

[sadie]

Thanks

I guess I have to admit I have had this same question too. Thank you scott
informative answer. I never really saw it like that before especially in terms of the hundreds of years.

Not meant to offend anyone but in my searching over the years I came across this book
Ginsburgh, Irwin, FIRST MAN. THEN ADAM., 1, 1975, Simon and Schuster, HB. See 1978 entry.
His basic theory is that Adam & Eve were higher functioning beings that came from outer space and their ship was the garden of eden. They were much more advanced than the humans here and they intermarried with the earth humans. I don't remember all the details. But somehow he tied it in to Genesis.
Maybe some of you know of it. Interesting idea and certainly not impossible as God can do all things. Tends to follow similar theories re: building the pyramids and the huge statues at Easter Island and such.

Also, there is the theory and variations of it that Adam & Eve are symbolic rather than real individuals, that many churches espouse.

However, I do like the way you explain it scott, it seems to fit. But another question in this area would be Genesis 6:1-4 "and the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives"

Who are the sons of God referred to here?

I have to admit I have always struggled with the Old Testament. Many years ago I studied theology for a couple of years and did courses in the Old Testament one theologically based the other historically based. I did better in the historical course. Unfortunately I don't remember much from them now.
Have only recently started reading it again and gaining different insight with the help of all of you on the forum as well as a few ministers I believe God has led me to.

Thank you all for your help and patience.


Posted by DJ

B.S. is not inquiring in the same way as he already has his own answers and if he does search some verses which were suggested, it will only be for the purpose of an attempt to refute & to fortify his preconceived answer

Maybe BS is a lawyer - that would explain a lot
Pray for him.

Originally Posted by iamfreeru2

DJ,

The best thing to do is just not answer Stu.

Wrong.

The best thing to do is to look and see if BS has made any contribution to this board, in his almost 200 posts, and if not, act accordingly.

but instead of that happening, he is given free rangd, and people get frustrated and say how they feel about BS, and get scolded for it.

JMHO.