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Old 06-15-2005, 02:39 AM
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Is the value of Pi = 3?

1 Kings 7:23

23 He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it. 24 Below the rim, gourds encircled it—ten to a cubit. The gourds were cast in two rows in one piece with the Sea.

According to "The Bible" text the circumference/diameter of a circle (Pi) is thirty/ten = 3

Is this guidance of truth that "Bible Believers" follow?

Come on, rationalize this obvious error.

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Old 06-15-2005, 05:25 AM
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Far more likely...

The value of Pi is certainly not 3. That is obviously offered as a rough estimation.

However the Hebrew alphabet divided by 7 is much closer to the actual value of Pi, practically speaking. That is to say 22/7.

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It is quite likely that the 'guessing game' of Calculus* is not the true method of calculating Pi. Especially since just measuring it out carefully with a ruler and CD indicates the Biblical inference is closer to physical reality.


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* Calculus is somewhat magical because it closes in on a value, getting an oxymoron called "infitessimally small" of closeness, the limit, and then calling that a good enough guess. And it always seems to be.

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Old 06-15-2005, 06:14 AM
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[quote=David Merrill]The value of Pi is certainly not 3. That is obviously offered as a rough estimation.

What is the factual basis by which you make this claim?

May I say that anything in the "Bible" that I disagree with is just a rough estimation?

It ain't so obvious.

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drop the decimal values

Drop the decimal values and you are correct Boyntonstu. Pi is 3. You just are not very precise.
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:59 AM
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Drop the decimal values and you are correct Boyntonstu. Pi is 3. You just are not very precise.

Merril,

Will you exchange 1000 x "Biblical Pi" 100 dollar bills for my 3,000 100 dollar bills?

If so, I can arrange it.

Who is not being precise?

Are you satisfied with an imprecise "Bible", the Word of God?

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Old 06-15-2005, 07:06 AM
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* Calculus is somewhat magical because it closes in on a value, getting an oxymoron called "infitessimally small" of closeness, the limit, and then calling that a good enough guess. And it always seems to be.[/quote]

If you would like a lesson in calculus to understand why you are being mislead with half-truths, I'll oblige.

BTW is the square root of the sum of the squares of a right triangle exactly equal to the hypotenuse? (Pythagorean Theorem) Think about it. Is it provable in real life?


Or a simple idea: is 1 + 1 = 2 in reality at any time?

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Old 06-15-2005, 07:45 AM
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Will you exchange 1000 x "Biblical Pi" 100 dollar bills for my 3,000 100 dollar bills?

I might consider trading you $3M for $3.14M. An easy $140K. That is the same degree of miscalculation you seem happy with. So please, do not offer me mathematics lessons. I have books and videos for that.

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If you would like a lesson in calculus to understand why you are being mislead with half-truths, I'll oblige.

What you should do is take a CD and roll it on paper carefully measuring in reality the circumfrence. Then carefully measure the diameter and divide them. It will be much closer to 3.14 than 3.0. If not, you are being a klutz.


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Old 06-15-2005, 08:58 AM
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"What you should do is take a CD and roll it on paper carefully measuring in reality the circumfrence. Then carefully measure the diameter and divide them. It will be much closer to 3.14 than 3.0. If not, you are being a klutz."


David,

I agree!

You make my point exactly! If it is 'klutz' easy to see that Pi is not 3 on a CD, how much easier was it in 'Biblical' times to easily see that the circumference of something you could walk around was not 3?

Is God a 'klutz'?

It is an error, certainly!

Is 1 + 1 = 2 in reality at any time?

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Old 06-15-2005, 09:25 AM
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It is an error, certainly!

I disagree. Like I said already:

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Drop the decimal values and you are correct Boyntonstu. Pi is 3. You just are not very precise.

The value of Pi is three, when you drop the decimal values. It is just not very precise.


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Old 06-15-2005, 11:54 PM
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I disagree. Like I said already:



The value of Pi is three, when you drop the decimal values. It is just not very precise.


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David Merrill.


David,

Paraphrasing your statement, It, "The 'Bible' is just not very precise".

Are you willing to believe in any book containing such imprecision?

How many other imprecise statements are there in 'The' Bible?

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