06-17-2005, 02:07 AM
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Where in "The Bible" does God advise people to worship an idol in order to save their lives?
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06-17-2005, 02:18 AM
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Please clarify. What Idol are you referring too? If you are inferring that Yeshua is an idol, please provide proof of claim. The Bible cleary states that there is one God; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
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06-17-2005, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by iamfreeru2
Please clarify. What Idol are you referring too? If you are inferring that Yeshua is an idol, please provide proof of claim. The Bible cleary states that there is one God; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
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An idol made of stone or metal. (Like the Golden Calf.)
Don't be SO sensitive, IMHO "Yehsua" is never mentioned by God.
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06-17-2005, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BoyntonStu
Where in "The Bible" does God advise people to worship an idol in order to save their lives?
BoyntonStu
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Nowhere does He advise people to worship idols.
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Originally Posted by BoyntonStu
Don't be SO sensitive, IMHO "Yehsua" is never mentioned by God.
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This is where you are wrong again. YHWH (God) does mention Yeshua (Jesus) throughout the Scriptures. In fact the Scripture's main focus is on the Messiah, Yeshua the Christ. The Savior of the world. |
06-17-2005, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by iamfreeru2
Nowhere does He advise people to worship idols.
This is where you are wrong again. YHWH (God) does mention Yeshua (Jesus) throughout the Scriptures. In fact the Scripture's main focus is on the Messiah, Yeshua the Christ. The Savior of the world.
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Numbers 21:
5And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.
6And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
7Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.
8And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
9And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.
God advises man to look at a brass serpent (worship) to save his life when bitten.
BoyntonStu
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06-18-2005, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BoyntonStu
Numbers 21:
5And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.
6And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
7Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.
8And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
9And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.
God advises man to look at a brass serpent (worship) to save his life when bitten.
BoyntonStu
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Is that from the Jefferson Bible?
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06-18-2005, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BoyntonStu
Numbers 21:
5And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.
6And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
7Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.
8And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
9And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.
God advises man to look at a brass serpent (worship) to save his life when bitten.
BoyntonStu
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The people did not worship the serpent at all. Only those that believed YHWH and looked on the bronze serpant lived. Emphasis on BELIEVED YHWH!! The N.T. uses this incident as an illustration of Yeshua's vicarious death on the cross and of the necessity of personal faith for salvation (John 3:14-15).
My my, you are always taking things out of context and reading into something that is not there. Why do you keep trying to put your own interpretations into things? Your thoughts could not even come close to His, but you continue to say what you believe YHWH meant and do not even have a clue.
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06-18-2005, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Incredible
Is that from the Jefferson Bible?
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No, it is just another feeble attempt at Stu trying to have the mind of YHWH, but instead has been blinded to what the verses really mean. We can try to be like and think like YHWH till the cows come home, but will never happen. Again Isaiah 55:8 "'For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Neither are your ways My ways,' declares the LORD." |
06-18-2005, 02:03 AM
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Is that from the Jefferson Bible?
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First, look in YOUR Bible.
Second, read the words for what they say, not what some people 1,000 years afterwards INTERPRET and SPIN it to mean.
If it says 'day' and you say it is 'night', we cannot discuss anything. Game over.
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06-18-2005, 02:08 AM
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[quote=iamfreeru2][color=DarkGreen][b] The people did not worship the serpent at all. Only those that believed YHWH and looked on the bronze serpant lived. Emphasis on BELIEVED YHWH!! The N.T. uses this incident as an illustration of Yeshua's vicarious death on the cross and of the necessity of personal faith for salvation (John 3:14-15).
Jesus? These folks in the desert never heard of Jesus. What in the world are you talking about? These desert folks were under the Law of Moses. They never had any chance to 'accept' the non-sense of Jesus.
Out of context?
Look at ANY Christian worship service. It is this verse here and this verse there and if you put them together it makes strawberry ice-cream.
What a R E A C H your comment makes. A snake on a stick = Jesus on the cross? Come on, wake up!
BoyntonStu
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