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Old 06-27-2005, 02:39 PM
BoyntonStu BoyntonStu is offline
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Was it a T or was it a t?

Dear 'Christians',

I thought that you should know the truth about the cross symbol that you worship.

The T was used because it is easier to make a hole in one stick and a point on another stick and put them together.

Ever try to nail a 4xr4 to another 4x4?


See how the people make things up simply because they 'believe' it to be true?


From Wilopedia

What else have you got wrong???


Hmmm?


BoyntonStu





Forms of the Cross
The cross is often shown in different shapes and sizes, in many different styles. It may be used in personal jewelry, or used on top of church buildings. It is shown both empty, and with the body of Christ (corpus) nailed to it, in which case it is typically called a crucifix. Roman Catholic depictions of the cross are often crucifixes, in order to emphasize Christ's sacrifice; but many Protestant traditions depict the cross without the corpus, in order to emphasize the resurrection.

Crosses are a prominent feature of Christian cemeteries, either carved on gravestones or as sculpted stelae. Because of this death meaning, planting small crosses is sometimes used in countries of Christian culture to protest alleged deaths.

Crosses have been erected or carved on pagan sites of worship like mountain tops or menhirs to counter their influences. In Catholic countries, crosses are often erected on the peaks of prominent mountains, such as the Zugspitze or Mount Royal, so as to be visible over the entire surrounding area.

Perhaps the best-known form of the Christian cross is that depicted here, called the Latin cross, an equal-armed cross with a longer foot. It may be so called because it is the type of cross used in the Latin (Roman Catholic) church, as opposed to the Eastern Orthodox cross.

Other forms of the Christian cross include:

Altar cross. Cross on a flat base to rest upon the altar. Earliest known example is a picture in a manuscript from the 9th century; by the 10th century they were commonly used, but the earliest extant altar cross is from the 12th century located at Great Lavra on Mt. Athos.
Andrew cross. Shaped like the letter X, the form of cross Saint Andrew was martyred on. A national symbol of Scotland. Also known as St. Andrew's Cross.
Ankh. Shaped like the letter T surmounted by an oval or circle. It is the Egyptian symbol for "life", it was adopted by the Copts (Egyptian Christians), also called a crux ansata.


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Anthony cross. Cross shaped like the letter T. Also called the Cross of St. Anthony, or Tau cross.

>This is the actual form used by Romans for crucifixion, not the Latin cross. <


Also known as a crux commissa.
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Archiepiscopal cross. Special cross carried by an archbishop.
Basque cross. The lauburu.
Calvary cross. A Gothic style, the cross is mounted on a base shaped to resemble Mt. Golgatha (where Christ was crucified), with the Virgin Mary and Saint John on either the base or crossarms.
Celtic Cross. Essentially a Latin cross, with a circle enclosing the intersection of the upright and crossbar, as in the standing High crosses;
Consercration cross. One of 12 crosses painted on the walls of a church to mark where it had been anointed during its concercration.
"Cross of name". See entry for "name cross".
Crux fourchette. A cross with flared or forked ends.
Crux gemmata. A cross inlaid with gems. Denotes a glorification of the cross, this form was inspired by the cult of the cross that arose after Saint Helena's discovery of the true cross in Jerusalem in 327.
Crux hasta. A cross with a long descending arm; a cross-staff.
Crux pattée. A Greek cross with flared ends.
Double cross. A cross with two crossbars. The upper one is shorter, representing the plaque nailed to Christ's cross, which said "Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews". Also known as a crux gemina. Also called the Cross of Lorraine.
Gammadion. A hooked cross or swastika, also known as a crux gammata.
Globus cruciger. Globe cross. An orb surmounted by a cross; used in royal regalia.
Greek cross. With arms of equal length. One of the most common Christian forms, in common use by the 4th century.
Gnostic cross. Cross used by the early Gnostic sects.
Latin cross. With a longer descending arm. Along with the Greek cross, it is the most common form, it represents the cross of Christ's crucifixion.
Living cross. One of two possibilities: Either a natural cross made of living vines and brances. Or, a man-made cross with vines or plants planted at its base. In the all-natural version, it refers to the legend that Christ's cross was made from the Tree of Life. In the man-made cross with plants planted at the base, it contrasts the "new" Tree of Life (the cross) with the Old Testament Tree of Life. In both cases it shows Christ's death (the cross) as a redemption for original sin (Tree of Life).
Lorraine cross. See entry for "Double cross".
Maltese cross. A Greek cross with arms that taper into the center. The outer ends may be forked.
Occitan cross
Patriarchal cross. Like the Double cross, but with a third additional crossbar, each one shorter than the one below. A triple cross. Also called Eastern Orthodox cross or Papal cross.
Pectoral cross. A large cross worn around the neck by some clergy.
Peter cross. An upside down cross. So-called because Peter was crucified upside down. Also called Cross of St. Peter. Also a symbol of Satanism;
Saltire. Associated with St Andrew, patron of Scotland.
Stepped cross. A cross resting on a base with several steps, in imitation of a monument built by Constantine in Constantinople.
Suppedaneum cross. A Russian and Byzantium form with an additional short crossbar, either horizontal or slanted near the base to represent Christ's footrest (suppedaneum).
Tau cross. See entry for Anthony cross.
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:52 PM
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Just to correct a misconception about the cross; Christians do not worship the cross. It is merely a symbol and anyone that worships the cross is not a Christian. Okay now that is settled.
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by iamfreeru2
Just to correct a misconception about the cross; Christians do not worship the cross. It is merely a symbol and anyone that worships the cross is not a Christian. Okay now that is settled.

Agree.

BUT! Whenever a 'wrong' shaped cross is shown on churches and around necks, it perpetuates a myth. It shows Christians for what they are; misinformed.

Myths are myths! Now that you have seen one, would you like to learn about other myths in you strongly held miss-beliefs?



Now that the truth is known about the shape of the cross, what is the likelihood that this error will be corrected in your lifetime?

It won't because Christians NEVER admit errors.

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Old 06-27-2005, 04:50 PM
iamfreeru2 iamfreeru2 is offline
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Originally Posted by BoyntonStu
Agree.

BUT! Whenever a 'wrong' shaped cross is shown on churches and around necks, it perpetuates a myth. It shows Christians for what they are; misinformed.

Myths are myths! Now that you have seen one, would you like to learn about other myths in you strongly held miss-beliefs?



Now that the truth is known about the shape of the cross, what is the likelihood that this error will be corrected in your lifetime?

It won't because Christians NEVER admit errors.

Wrong again Stu. I am a Christian and I commit errors. I am not perfect and never said I was. The one I follow is perfect. I am glad I got that straightened out, really had me worried. LOL
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:34 PM
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Wrong again Stu. I am a Christian and I commit errors. I am not perfect and never said I was. The one I follow is perfect. I am glad I got that straightened out, really had me worried. LOL


Really had you worried?


Do you own a cross?

What is the shape?

Knowledge without action = non-worried = not caring.

"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your path."

Has the direction been the way to the wrong cross?
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