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Was Jesus Gay?
Was Jesus Gay?
by Matt Johns
365Gay.com Newscenter
Los Angeles Bureau
Posted: December 25, 2003 12:01 a.m. ET
(Los Angeles, California) As Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus few of them will be told in their churches and Cathedrals anything about the sexuality of Jesus, yet a growing group of Biblical scholars believe that Christ may have had at least one sexual relationship with another male.
Noted Methodist theologian Rev. Theodore Jennings Jr. and Dr Morton Smith a world renowned Bible scholar at Columbia University say there is irrefutable evidence that Jesus was at least bisexual. Dr Rollan McCleary of the University of Queensland, in Australia, says he has discovered through his research that three of the disciples were gay.
Prof. Smith points to a fragment of manuscript he found at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem in 1958 which he says allues to Jesus having a homosexual relationship with a youth he raised from the dead. The fragment shows that the full text of St. Mark, Chapter 10 (between verses 34 and 35 in the standard version of the Bible) includes the following passage:
"And the youth, looking upon him (Jesus), loved him and beseeched that he might remain with him. And going out of the tomb, they went into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days, Jesus instructed him and, at evening, the youth came to him wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God".
Rev. Jennings, a professor at the United Church of Christ's Chicago Theological Seminary, points to the Gospel of St. John. In his recently published book "The Man Jesus Loved: Homoerotic Narratives From the New Testament," Jennings writes that the reference in St John about "the disciple Jesus loved" was actually a reference to Jesus' gay boyfriend.
Jennings also claims the centurion's servant who was healed by Jesus actually was the centurion's gay boyfriend and that Jesus did not denounce their relationship.
Dr McCleary spent the last three years researching “gay spirituality”. His book, "Signs for a Messiah" published earlier this year says that Jesus and at least three of his disciples were gay, and Christianity in general is built on “gay principles”.
McCleary says that Christianity needs to recognize its homosexual roots and abandon the practice of alienating gays and spreading homophobia.
British gay rights advocate Peter Tatchell says even though the information about Jesus' sexuality remains scant, "there is certainly no evidence for the Church's presumption that he was heterosexual. Nothing in the Bible points to him having desires or relationships with women. The possibility of a gay Christ cannot be ruled out."
"Since there is no proof of the heterosexuality of Jesus, the theological basis of Church homophobia is all the more shaky and indefensible," Tatchell said.
"Large chunks of Jesus' life are missing from the Biblical accounts. This has fuelled speculation that the early Church sanitized the gospels, removing references to Christ's sexuality that were not in accord with the heterosexual morality that it wanted to promote", said Tatchell.
The Vatican has denounced the research by Jennings, Smith and McCleary as "heretical". It has also been denounced by Southern Baptists and evangelical Anglicans.
When recently asked if his research might be tainted because he is gay, McCleary said: "You could see that either way. You could also say that heterosexual people have their eyes wide shut on the matter, that they don't want to see that Jesus would have been of gay disposition.
"You maybe have to be gay to read the signals and to see things and research things which other people wouldn't," he added.
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07-05-2005, 06:37 AM
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ROFLMAO!!!!!
I needed a good laugh, and this did it.
Henry Franklin
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07-05-2005, 06:45 AM
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Noted Methodist theologian Rev. Theodore Jennings Jr.
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And the Methodist Denom has been ordaining homosexuals . . .
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Dr Rollan McCleary of the University of Queensland, in Australia,
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Queensland, go figr
This is about the funniest thing I've read in a while, though
The buzz words are a hit:
"Gay Spirituality"
"homoerotic narratives"
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07-05-2005, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776
And the Methodist Denom has been ordaining homosexuals . . .
Queensland, go figr
This is about the funniest thing I've read in a while, though
The buzz words are a hit:
"Gay Spirituality"
"homoerotic narratives"
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Well, 2,000 years ago, straight guys were married before age 20.
Why wasn't Jesus?
Why did his 'friends' leave their wives to 'be with' him?
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07-05-2005, 07:50 AM
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Hey Stu, How old are you, and are you married? (To a member of the opposite sex)

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07-05-2005, 08:00 AM
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Long concealed conversation overheard between Jesus and one of his newly awakened gay disciples:
JC, to man being raised from the dead: "Don't bury your talents, big boy..."
Formerly dead (but still stiff) new disciple: "Oooooohhhh.... he is risen... he is risen indeed!"
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07-05-2005, 08:05 AM
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Who says
Just because there is no "official" (and I use that term VERY suggestively, because we all know how 'factual" they can be!) report that Jesus was, or was not married, it allows "scholars" like BS (gotta love that choice of handles!) to draw a conclusion -- Have you read The DaVinci Code? Seems that is just as feasible (and YES< I know it's fiction! Duh! but it is just as Feasible as any other 'story') Have we learned nothing from our own experiences? Is there any actual, first hand knoweledge of anything? Since there is not, we are all free to read, assimilate and draw our own conclusions. It is not a case of convincing, but sharing views and thoughts. Conversing and debating in an itelligent and cognizent manner.
Just my two cents. I don't usually get in on this religious claptrap. Believe is one's own without coercion. Not an aspertion on religion, God, god, et al. Just stay away from the rabid on this forum who like to stit the pot.
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07-05-2005, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by seeker
Just because there is no "official" (and I use that term VERY suggestively, because we all know how 'factual" they can be!) report that Jesus was, or was not married, it allows "scholars" like BS (gotta love that choice of handles!) to draw a conclusion -- Have you read The DaVinci Code? Seems that is just as feasible (and YES< I know it's fiction! Duh! but it is just as Feasible as any other 'story') Have we learned nothing from our own experiences? Is there any actual, first hand knoweledge of anything? Since there is not, we are all free to read, assimilate and draw our own conclusions. It is not a case of convincing, but sharing views and thoughts. Conversing and debating in an itelligent and cognizent manner.
Just my two cents. I don't usually get in on this religious claptrap. Believe is one's own without coercion. Not an aspertion on religion, God, god, et al. Just stay away from the rabid on this forum who like to stit the pot.
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Hey! Slow down.
It was some Christians that concluded that Jesus was gay.
Do you find it strange that he never married and hung around with only males?
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07-05-2005, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BoyntonStu
Hey! Slow down.
It was some Christians that concluded that Jesus was gay.
Do you find it strange that he never married and hung around with only males?
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I find it predictable that you haven't answered my questions.
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07-05-2005, 09:28 AM
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Missed the point, BS
You missed the point as reflected by your question --
"Do you find it strange that he never married and hung around with only males?"
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