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Lessons in Life
Greetings Brothers and Sisters!
Thank you for visiting this thread and excuse me while I espouse (is that a word?) on a few ideas. I don't pretend to really "know" anything, but while I've been on this little journey throught this life experience that the Almighty has given to me, I've come to understand certain truths about my existence and would only like to share them with others in the hopes that we may all come just a little bit further along in our hopes of enjoying this life and sharing and spreading that "joy" amongst other fellow beings.
I'll try to keep this short and to the point without wandering too far off topic, but as this thread hopefully developes, we'll just see where it goes, OK?
So here goes...
In MY OWN EXPERIENCE, I have found that the problems I have encountered in life were in fact products manufactured from within myself. I have also found that during times of sheer joy and satisfaction I was also directly responsible for creating the circumstances that brought about those feelings of joyfulness.
The question becomes..."if it is true that I've created both my own calamities as well as successes, how can I focus on creating MORE success and LESS calamity?"
The answer is this..."As a man thinks in his heart, so is he".
When thru FEAR, I chose to feel as though I was a victim of life, I fought to "take control" of my life by fighting back against everyone and everything that I felt was attacking me. The more fearful I became, the harder I fought, the harder I fought, the bigger my fears grew, the bigger my fears grew,the harder i fought and on and on and on. As my heart became filled with fear, I became fear. I judged the world thru a looking glass of fear.
My fear made me angry. My actions sprang forth from my anger....and I lost control of my life. During the times when I was calling upon God to give me strength to fight my enemies, (and His, or so I thought), I had actually without realizing it turned my back on God himself.
I have now regained control of my life. How? Because I have now come to realize, thru the example of the christ, that since God is invincible, and he created me, I TOO AM INVINCIBLE. This doesn't mean that I can attack my enemies, it means that I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR from my "enemies" because nothing they can do can EVER EVER EVER hurt me.
This goes for the mailman, the gas-station man, the grocery clerk man, the car sales man, the computer repair man, and the TAX MAN.
Because of this...because HE showed that if even death itself can be conquered thru LOVE, and further that there is truly no such thing as death,I am FREE to love my "enemies" instead of hating them. I ask God to forgive them for, "they know not what they do", because if I don't...I give in to thoughts of retaliation, and vengeance, and retribution.
All of those things BELONG TO GOD. And what does God do with them? HE ERASES IT FROM EXISTENCE.
We all came from the same place, and we're all going back to the same place.
Nothing in this world really matters anyway other than that we are all here to learn and create from POSITIVE thought, love as we wish to be loved and reflect back to God our GRATITUDE for this life.
Here's what I've learned...because I no longer hate or fear ANY MAN, instead I chose to LOVE, I become that which my heart thinks, I become love and nothing but love enters into my existence...my enemy (fear) is thereby conquered.
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07-22-2005, 05:44 PM
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No Fear...But I do get pissed off..
TommyGun:
Understand where you're coming from.... I wish I could
operate from that platform of "Love and acceptance"
I surely do not knock it....
For me, I am almost always battling my flesh and it wins
quite often...anger is my gift and I sort of have a handle on
it. As far as the Pigs now in control of our precious
Republic,all I wanna do is see their "end of days"
The crap they have perpetrated upon us Citizens is just too
much.... I'm not saying that me and my belt-fed weapons
are gonna Rambo theirway to glory..... but it would sure
separate the men from the Boys. I do pray for our Country
Family,Friends, I have a hard time including my enemies...
A little character flaw there!
I am simply trying to get off this treadmill and find order
in my own life and it includes me separating myself from
this system of Bozos who have most of us by the throat.
I am flying below the radar more and more as the days
pass. In the coming months,I hope to reveal a victory or
two and share with all here at Su.Juris.
It's a shame that some of us have to work this hard to
stay free from government abuses..... I just wanna abuse 'em back!
I'm a peaceful man as a general rule..... it's my patience
that is nearing the end.......
Good Nite to All
Mike
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07-23-2005, 11:05 AM
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The Heart of the Matter:Follow Your Heart, Not Fear.
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Originally Posted by Tommygun
Greetings Brothers and Sisters!
I have now regained control of my life. How? Because I have now come to realize, thru the example of the christ, that since God is invincible, and he created me, I TOO AM INVINCIBLE. This doesn't mean that I can attack my enemies, it means that I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR from my "enemies" because nothing they can do can EVER EVER EVER hurt me.
[...]Because of this...because HE showed that if even death itself can be conquered thru LOVE, and further that there is truly no such thing as death,I am FREE to love my "enemies" instead of hating them. I ask God to forgive them for, "they know not what they do", because if I don't...I give in to thoughts of retaliation, and vengeance, and retribution.
All of those things BELONG TO GOD. And what does God do with them? HE ERASES IT FROM EXISTENCE.
We all came from the same place, and we're all going back to the same place.
Nothing in this world really matters anyway other than that we are all here to learn and create from POSITIVE thought, love as we wish to be loved and reflect back to God our GRATITUDE for this life.
Here's what I've learned...because I no longer hate or fear ANY MAN, instead I chose to LOVE, I become that which my heart thinks, I become love and nothing but love enters into my existence...my enemy (fear) is thereby conquered.
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emphasis added.
This is the point that I have been trying to make, that we each must follow our hearts. If one thinks that it is a great idea to file a tax form, then do so. However, if one disagrees with filing such forms, then do not. While one may feel fearful, we must not let fear control us. I feel that this applies to what taxes one wishes to pay, or which wars one wishes to fight. Once fear is not the controlling factor, then one can better decide what is best for him/her self, and what is better for the nation, or the world for that matter.
Yes, your time in the prison system shows that there are many reasons to be frightened, yet, in your heart, what did you do to deserve prison time? You have mentioned that you were following the ideas of Robert Clarkson, that his work was based on the Constitution, however, I have not saw what you found to be wrong with his ideas, except that they resulted in you doing prison time. What in your heart caused you to think that Clarkson was correct in the first place, what change your heart, other than prison? The question is, in your heart, do you feel that this prison time was given on a just basis (i.e. who did you harm), or just to instill fear?
If there was no just basis for the govenment to send you to prison, then they did wrong, why let them change your heart? You should continue to do what your heart tells you, and not let fear, love, anger, retaliation, and vengeance, and retribution, change what you know to be true.
I my view, you have given better responses over time. Please, keep it up.
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"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson
It is dangerous to be right when your government is wrong. -Voltaire
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07-24-2005, 01:31 PM
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TG,
Your feelings are your own. But I tend to operate from the view that the Father comes first... even before the Tax Man. So, why allow the Tax Man to grab my earnings BEFORE I have an opportunity to give the first fruits to the Father?
For me, it is about my right of worship as well as keeping the government honest.
But the questions still remain... what went wrong with your defense? And the question of whether or not you were incarcerated on a just basis goes unanswered.
You could gain the answers to those questions but you refuse that opportunity. Because of your attitude towards this specific issue... I don't think you have anything to offer for the discussion. You can't cite law or case ... you want to deal from your "emotions". There can be no winner in that kind of discussion.
If you ever decide to get down to brass tacks ... you let us know and we'll research your ordeal and find some answers for you.
Until then... happy trails to you.
Ice
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07-25-2005, 10:11 PM
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In MY OWN EXPERIENCE, I have found that the problems I have encountered in life were in fact products manufactured from within myself. I have also found that during times of sheer joy and satisfaction I was also directly responsible for creating the circumstances that brought about those feelings of joyfulness.
The question becomes..."if it is true that I've created both my own calamities as well as successes, how can I focus on creating MORE success and LESS calamity?"
The answer is this..."As a man thinks in his heart, so is he".
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I agree. This philosophy is at the heart of the Science of Mind fellowship. http://www.scienceofmind.com/
Have you seen the film "What the Bleep Do We Know?" We are created with the potential to create our own happiness, success, love, etc.
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07-26-2005, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BOBT12
emphasis added.
This is the point that I have been trying to make, that we each must follow our hearts. If one thinks that it is a great idea to file a tax form, then do so. However, if one disagrees with filing such forms, then do not. While one may feel fearful, we must not let fear control us. I feel that this applies to what taxes one wishes to pay, or which wars one wishes to fight. Once fear is not the controlling factor, then one can better decide what is best for him/her self, and what is better for the nation, or the world for that matter.
Yes, your time in the prison system shows that there are many reasons to be frightened, yet, in your heart, what did you do to deserve prison time? You have mentioned that you were following the ideas of Robert Clarkson, that his work was based on the Constitution, however, I have not saw what you found to be wrong with his ideas, except that they resulted in you doing prison time. What in your heart caused you to think that Clarkson was correct in the first place, what change your heart, other than prison? The question is, in your heart, do you feel that this prison time was given on a just basis (i.e. who did you harm), or just to instill fear?
If there was no just basis for the govenment to send you to prison, then they did wrong, why let them change your heart? You should continue to do what your heart tells you, and not let fear, love, anger, retaliation, and vengeance, and retribution, change what you know to be true.
I my view, you have given better responses over time. Please, keep it up.
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Quick response...I'm too busy today to stay here long.
But I never did time. I copped out to get 6 mos home incarce, 3 yrs probation, 180 hours community service and interest and penalties on the original tax debts (which I'm still paying).
But the episode was still fairly traumatic as I lost my business, house and had to pay a small fortune in attorneys fees to get me out of the whole mess.
But I kep my butt out of the can, rebuilt my business and my wife never left me and we have two beautiful daughters who are growing up way too fast and whom I never would have been able to be away from for a minute had i gone down in flames.
That's it for now, catch up w/ya later,
TG
I'll post more later. gotta go.
TG
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07-26-2005, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fed-Up
TommyGun:
Understand where you're coming from.... I wish I could
operate from that platform of "Love and acceptance"
I surely do not knock it....
For me, I am almost always battling my flesh and it wins
quite often...anger is my gift and I sort of have a handle on
it. As far as the Pigs now in control of our precious
Republic,all I wanna do is see their "end of days"
The crap they have perpetrated upon us Citizens is just too
much.... I'm not saying that me and my belt-fed weapons
are gonna Rambo theirway to glory..... but it would sure
separate the men from the Boys. I do pray for our Country
Family,Friends, I have a hard time including my enemies...
A little character flaw there!
I am simply trying to get off this treadmill and find order
in my own life and it includes me separating myself from
this system of Bozos who have most of us by the throat.
I am flying below the radar more and more as the days
pass. In the coming months,I hope to reveal a victory or
two and share with all here at Su.Juris.
It's a shame that some of us have to work this hard to
stay free from government abuses..... I just wanna abuse 'em back!
I'm a peaceful man as a general rule..... it's my patience
that is nearing the end.......
Good Nite to All
Mike
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Here's the bottom line...for me anyway...
If the Christ wanted to, there is no question in my mind whatsoever, that had he chosen, he could have lead a revolution that would have toppled the Roman Empire.
The very ROCKS themselves would have come alive and "smote" Ceasar and his army...and his tax collectors.
But this would have entirely defeated the true purpose of the message he was sent here to deliver to mankind.
Had Jesus raised an army of protesters and revolutionaries, or heck, made the rivers and oceans and mountains cave in on Rome and destroy his "enemy"...then he would have proven NOT that he was the Christ, but that he was the ANTI-christ.
But that is not who he was, nor is it who He wants US to be.
For every man who would hurt, or steal, or lie, or kill...he is a man imprisoned by fear. To respond to him with anything but LOVE...is to pick up the very sword that your "enemy" has chosen.
God's laws all have one thing in common, as opposed to man's laws and it is this...any of man's laws ,INCLUDING THE 10 COMMANDMENTS..which in my opinion are merely God's stern recommendations, by the way...can be violated if a man so chooses. If you don't believe me? Then why is there all the killing and stealing and dishonor in general in the world?...whereas God's true LAWS are by their nature inviolable.
As in "He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword".
Think about it.
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07-26-2005, 06:33 PM
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So... let me get this straight...
You think it is okay that the government ... that by their Oath is supposed to protect and defend our unalienable rights ... can violate our right of worship and we are supposed to go on loving them like they haven't done anything wrong?
If this is a government "by the People" then the People had better RUN THEIR GOVERNMENT ... DON'T YA THINK?
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07-26-2005, 06:55 PM
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Tommy,
I have to agree with Ice when he said "Your feelings are your own. But I tend to operate from the view that the Father comes first... even before the Tax Man. So, why allow the Tax Man to grab my earnings BEFORE I have an opportunity to give the first fruits to the Father?"
You see I also believe the Father wants our all. Proverbs 3:9 says "Honor the LORD from all your wealth, And from the first fruits of all your produce." When you give to the IRS before giving to YHWH is that worshipping YHWH or is that stealing from Him? To love YHWH is to obey Him and not man (Acts 5:29). It is to follow His commandments.
I do what I do out of love for YHWH and a desire to do His will, not my own. I long to be with Him and am hating this world more and more. 1 John 2:15 "Do not love the world, nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him." v. 17 And the world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of YHWH abides forever."
I understand where you are coming from. IMHO if you put government before YHWH then you do not really love Him. That is based on what His word says. You do not blindly turn over everything YHWH has provided for you to a fraud. YHWH deals in truth and reality, not some fiction or fraud based on man's corrupt laws. Joshua 1:8 "This book of the law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it: for then you will make your way prosperous and then you will have success." v.9 "Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous! Do not tremble or be dismayed, for the LORD your YHWH is with you wherever you go." If He is with His children wherever they go, then what has fear got to do with anything? Is He so weak He cannot protect His children. The safest place His child can be is in His will.
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All I See is Fear
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Originally Posted by Tommygun
Quick response...I'm too busy today to stay here long.
But I never did time. I copped out to get 6 mos home incarce, 3 yrs probation, 180 hours community service and interest and penalties on the original tax debts (which I'm still paying).
But the episode was still fairly traumatic as I lost my business, house and had to pay a small fortune in attorneys fees to get me out of the whole mess.
But I kep my butt out of the can, rebuilt my business and my wife never left me and we have two beautiful daughters who are growing up way too fast and whom I never would have been able to be away from for a minute had i gone down in flames.
That's it for now, catch up w/ya later,
TG
I'll post more later. gotta go.
TG
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At this point I must agree with Ice, and iamfreeru2. Tommygun, you will not respond regarding the issue of just or unjust govenment, only fear. What can anyone truly feel, if the only concern is based on fear?
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Fear leads to the dark side. -Yoda
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May the Force be with you.
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"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson
It is dangerous to be right when your government is wrong. -Voltaire
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