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rottweiler · #1 12-10-2005, 08:36 AM

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1865.cfm

ntellect · #2 12-13-2005, 10:28 AM

Thanks.

Like I said, "religions" are just stories being changed and re-told. I've been learning and studying ancient languages and cultures for about 5 years now and have encountered most of the information on this site already.

The story didn't start with just Nimrod or the God Dagan. You can also find this story with the ancient African tribe the Dogan's (Dagan) of West Africa. The talk about the fish God, half man, half fish that came out of the waters. This also goes back to the Sumerians and the Egyptians.

If you look at the Vatican and our capital Washington,DC (District of Columbia which is not in the state of Washington or a real city for that matter), notice the Egyptian Oblisk in the middle of both cities. All these symbolic stories, Gods, monuments, etc all predate Christianity.

The one confusing part of the info at this link to me is the section that talks about Egypt and the Obelisk being a sign of evil. Everything that I have studied regarding Egyptology, never mentions the Obelisk as a symbol of evil. Not originally. It's true "one" of it's many symbolisms was that of the male phallus but this story or "symbolism" goes back to the virgin birth of Horus. Where after his father Osiris was chopped up into many pieces and thrown into the Nile river, Horus mother, Isis, created a symbol of the male phallus, mounted it and conceived a savior child named Horus. Thus it was a virgin birth because she did not conceive Horus by having physical intercourse with her husband Osiris.

Now mind you, it's only talking about symbolisms of other events. Most of Egypt was never understood by the invading Greeks and Romans and those individuals turned all the symbolisms around to mean something else because most of it they did not understand. Also, keep in mind that although Christianity does have a lot of Egyptian symbolisms in it, Christianity was not created by the Egyptians but by people who raped, lied and stole from Egypt and claimed those stories for their selves.

fulltitle · #3 12-13-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ntellect

Thanks.

Like I said, "religions" are just stories being changed and re-told. I've been learning and studying ancient languages and cultures for about 5 years now and have encountered most of the information on this site already.

The story didn't start with just Nimrod or the God Dagan. You can also find this story with the ancient African tribe the Dogan's (Dagan) of West Africa. The talk about the fish God, half man, half fish that came out of the waters. This also goes back to the Sumerians and the Egyptians.

If you look at the Vatican and our capital Washington,DC (District of Columbia which is not in the state of Washington or a real city for that matter), notice the Egyptian Oblisk in the middle of both cities. All these symbolic stories, Gods, monuments, etc all predate Christianity.

WITHOUT PREJUDICE
What some may fail to consider is the notion that the basis of true Christianity (not pop / statist versions) goes back to even before Adam.

Psalm 90:2 "Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God."

John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Hebrews 11:3 "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

2 Corinthians 3:2 "Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men."

And Y'shua was making a point that Our Father who art in Heaven is not a 'legal fiction' created either by, for or on behalf of either Israel, Abraham or Babylonian mystics.

ntellect · #4 12-13-2005, 01:52 PM

[quote=fulltitle]WITHOUT PREJUDICE
What some may fail to consider is the notion that the basis of true Christianity (not pop / statist versions) goes back to even before Adam.
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WITHOUT PREJUDICE, that's a good one. Studying the UCC techniques.

I humbly disagree with the above point that "Christianity" goes back before Adam.

For one the Old testament of the Hebrews or Jews and the New testament of Jesus Christ are two totally different doctorines. The current day Jews still adhere to the teachings of the Old Testament and specifically I believe it to be the first 5 books of the Old Testament. The old and the new are clearly different teachings and even according to the New Testament, Jesus did not come to change/destroy the law or the prophets only to fulfill prophecy, according to the scriptures. If fulfilling any prophecy changed the law, then that would make what Jesus said untrue and we know that can't be but the law clearly changed from old to new. So "true Christianity could not have existed before Adam"

Matthew 5:17 (the words of Christ according to scripture)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

The word "Christian" was never even used by Christ, according to scripture. The word Christian was used by Paul at Antioch some 47 years after the supposed cruixficion of Jesus. The word "Christian" actually comes from several different words. The first part coming from the ancient Egyptian word "Karast", which simply means "annointed one." It's orgins can also be traced back to the Hindu/Indian God, "Krishna" who was a according to Hindu doctorine, a crusified saviour. Go online and put in "pictures of Krishna." You might be surprised what you find. Krishna existed some 3000 years before Christ.

The word "Jesus" did not even appear in the English language until around 1565 because there was no "J" in the English language. Prior to the English language, you would have to go back to the Hebrew language or Greek. The old Test coming from the Hebrew and the new Test coming from the Greek. So their was no "J", so that's why the Hebrews called Christ, Y'shua. Yet if you read the Hebrew text about Y'shua/Jesus, the stories don't match. So somewhere, somehow, something got changed.

Livefire · #5 12-13-2005, 06:09 PM

Actually the Babylonian Talmud is what governs the Ashkenizim...much more so than Torah or Mishnah

rottweiler · #6 12-13-2005, 09:22 PM

The Pope is not one of the Creator's children but is a luciferian.

Revelation 22:13

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Jesus came not to destroy the Law(God's Word), but to fulfill it. He was perfect in the Law. He was the Law made flesh. They killed his body but the truth can not be killed so He rose again. The Creator's Law was here first and will be here last. It is the Law that make the planets revolve around the sun and created life here on earth.

The luciferians want to destroy the Law. They will fail.

The jews you refer to ntellect are anti-christ. The modern day country of Israel is a counterfeit of The Nation of Israel. Lucifer is a counterfeiter.

Can you stipulate to these?

rottweiler · #7 12-13-2005, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Livefire

Actually the Babylonian Talmud is what governs the Ashkenizim...much more so than Torah or Mishnah

The King James Bible

Revelation, chapter 2

"9": I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation, chapter 3

"9": Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.