When was Jesus (supposedly) born?

[BoyntonStu]

When was Jesus supposedly born?

What year?

What month?

What day of the Month?


Support your answers.


stU

[iamfreeru2]

Originally Posted by BoyntonStu

When was Jesus supposedly born?

What year?

What month?

What day of the Month?


Support your answers.


stU

Well, it was not December 25. Do you know when He was born? What does it matter when He was born? The fact is He was. What is your point?

And just how many holes can be poked in your belief?

Should you not have a belief, there from where do you draw standing to question, examine and disparage another's?

What is your motive for posting these 'religious' questions? I am sincerely curious, no flame intended.

Just a meaningful repsectful discussion on why you post these things.

Is it just a simple intention to insult or do you feel like you are trying to help people understand a truth?

For the former you do it well, for the latter your palette need be refreshed.

[Livefire]

10 Tishri, 4BC and dat be Yom Kippur for you yamulke wearin, gefilte fish eatin' types like Boynton Stu! The Book of Daniel is VERY precise in its dating with the 70 years prophecy AND the date Babylon fell is quite literally etched in stone. Do the math Stu!!! Here's a link for all to check out.

http://members.aol.com/larrypahl/birth.htm

Its funny tho, Yeshua NEVER commanded anyone to observe the day of his birth. He lives on today by His Spirit in the hearts of the ecclesia. I would be interested in Stu proving his existence, however, its hard to believe that there is a real flesh and blood person out there somewhere that acts like the cyber entity we all see!

[Shoonra]

Yom Kippur? Well, it's around the right time of year (shepherds watching their flocks pretty much eliminates the last week of December) ... but would Mary and Joseph and all those people who had filled up the inn be in Bethlehem on the most solemn holy day when they all were supposed to be at the Temple in Jerusalem?

[Livefire]

BS seems to think he came from a chimp or some other primate.....I remember his post about the gorilla making tools. I think the gorilla already passed BS by.....cuz the gorilla creates something ORIGINAL and not a copy or repost of others work!!!!

[Livefire]

Shoonra,

Mary would've been ceremonially unclean due to pregnancy and the subsequent birth. The article I posted the link to seems to infer that the shepherds were watching flocks of sheep intended for sacrifice at the temple, so this may mean the distance wasnt far away. The temple day came to a close about the 9th hour which corresponds to 3 pm. This is when the evening sacrifice was offered. Interestingly enuf it was also about the 9th hour when Christ declared IT IS FINISHED!!!! and all the priests were tending their business about the altar and seen that veil ripped away exposing the Most Holy Place with its Ark! I bet they soiled themselves!!!!

One other thing that has been obfuscated....The Magi didnt show up for another 2yrs. Scripture plainly says they went to the HOUSE in Nazareth and the greek word at that portion of scripture is teknon NOT brephos (toddler vs infant) That is why Herod ordered all male children under 2 yrs of age to be slaughtered, not just newborns.

Mary would've been ceremonially unclean due to pregnancy and the subsequent birth.

Thank you for pointing out that classically chauvinistic attitude toward the female reproductive cycle. Women were considered "unclean" during their menstrual cycle, too. We're supposed to believe (because the Bible says so) that these natural functions of the female reproductive cycle are to be considered "unclean" and that god actually wanted women to be excluded from the temples and from worship during menstruation or pregnancy? We're supposed to believe that god told the Hebrews to believe that? I guess so, because it's in the Bible.

The article I posted the link to seems to infer that the shepherds were watching flocks of sheep intended for sacrifice at the temple, so this may mean the distance wasnt far away.

This sort of changes the charming, bucolic imagery of Christmas depicting peaceful shepherds tending their flocks when you bear in mind that these sheep were all probably intended for blood sacrifice, doesn't it? All the cute little wooly sheep were going to be spread-eagled, stabbed, bled to death, and their joints all cracked and broken on the altar. Then their blood was going to be splattered around as part of the same sort of pagan ritual that the Greeks and the Baal worshippers or the devotees of Malech performed. That imagery would make for a really different kind of Christmas card, now wouldn't it?

The temple day came to a close about the 9th hour which corresponds to 3 pm. This is when the evening sacrifice was offered. Interestingly enuf it was also about the 9th hour when Christ declared IT IS FINISHED!!!! and all the priests were tending their business about the altar and seen that veil ripped away exposing the Most Holy Place with its Ark! I bet they soiled themselves!!!!

Now THAT I might consider unclean! LOL.

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...for you yamulke wearin, gefilte fish eatin' types like Boynton Stu!

Oh lovely. The nasty religious prejudice cannot help but rear it's ugly head.

BS (BoyntonStu) seems to think he came from a chimp or some other primate.....I remember his post about the gorilla making tools. I think the gorilla already passed BS by.....cuz the gorilla creates something ORIGINAL and not a copy or repost of others work!!!!

I don't think his questions are reposts of others' work... his questions often utilize others' work to substantiate his points... but you'd rather insult him than have to actually deal with these questions. It appears to me that he is trying to get you to analyze your beliefs and recognize the mythological nature of some of the supposed "facts" upon which you base them.

He has quoted great men like Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Thomas Paine... and most people here are supposed to admire the Founding Fathers of this nation, right??? He also quotes scientific journals. Quoting others' work is a sign of respect for those others, and an attempt to get you to realize that some brilliant and accomplished people have shared the agnostic or Deist viewpoint.

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[redeemed2]

Originally Posted by Livefire

Shoonra,

Mary would've been ceremonially unclean due to pregnancy and the subsequent birth. The article I posted the link to seems to infer that the shepherds were watching flocks of sheep intended for sacrifice at the temple, so this may mean the distance wasnt far away. The temple day came to a close about the 9th hour which corresponds to 3 pm. This is when the evening sacrifice was offered. Interestingly enuf it was also about the 9th hour when Christ declared IT IS FINISHED!!!! and all the priests were tending their business about the altar and seen that veil ripped away exposing the Most Holy Place with its Ark! I bet they soiled themselves!!!!

One other thing that has been obfuscated....The Magi didnt show up for another 2yrs. Scripture plainly says they went to the HOUSE in Nazareth and the greek word at that portion of scripture is teknon NOT brephos (toddler vs infant) That is why Herod ordered all male children under 2 yrs of age to be slaughtered, not just newborns.

AWESOME!!! I see you pay attention to detail. Great post. Also there weren't 3 Magi, they just brought 3 main gifts, but they brought enough for them to live off of during their exile in Egypt.