"We had a miracle, and it was taken away from us."

I think we all have heard about this horrible tragedy. However, there appears to be an ongoing amazing story in the aftermath.
Why is it that people praise the gods when things go well and blame others when their "miracle" goes haywire?

Here's the link:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/04/min...wed/index.html

Here's part of the story:

Families outraged

Hatfield's announcement sent Anna Casto, who lost her cousin, into a tirade.

"No, he strictly told us they was alive," Casto said. "Three hours later, he come back and said they wasn't."

"We want to know why, and how people can get by with this," she said. (Full story)

Casto said the tragedy has shaken the faith of some in the community, who "don't even know if there is a Lord anymore," she said. "We had a miracle, and it was taken away from us."

John Casto was at a church where families had gathered when the false report arrived, and later when the terrible news was announced. After the first report, "they were praising God," he said. After the second, "they were cursing." (Watch a friend recount waiting on the porch for hugs -- 7:23)

One of those gathered at the church was Lynette Roby, who said the scene turned quickly to mayhem.

People began screaming, "You lied to us!" and "Hypocrites!" before charging officials, Roby said, further describing the church as "a mob scene." Police intervened, she said.

"They started running everywhere, and then next thing you know we see fists flying everywhere," her son, Travis, said. "Cops and people and everything was hitting each other."

Lynette Roby summed up the sentiment in the tight-knit hill community, saying, "It's the worst thing I've ever heard. I don't know how the information could get this far."

Hatfield said the families "certainly have some basis for their frustration having been put through this emotional roller coaster. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I regret that it's happened. I would do anything if it had not happened."

He urged those devastated by the tragedy to be thankful that at least McCloy was saved.

"We prayed for 13 miracles," he said. "We want to celebrate the one miracle that was delivered."

On Wednesday evening, dozens gathered at the Sago Baptist Church -- where so many friends' and relatives' glee turned to grief -- for a candlelight vigil.

Originally Posted by PJT04

IWhy is it that people praise the gods when things go well and blame others when their "miracle" goes haywire?

It's called human nature. Why ask why?

Is there a point you want to make?

Henry Franklin

Originally Posted by HenryBowman

It's called human nature. Why ask why?

Is there a point you want to make?

Henry Franklin

I thought this place was about learning and asking questions.
Nice going Henry. Just close this thread like you did the others.

Suijuris is becoming a joke.

[2tim215]

It's amazing to me how when men do (or say) foolish things, certain others want to blame God for it. You'd think that it was God who had announced to the world that all those men were alive instead of Geraldo.

Praise God and blessings to all.

2tim215

2 Tim 2:15(KJV) Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

[Mark]

Originally Posted by PJT04

Why is it that people praise the gods when things go well and blame others when their "miracle" goes haywire?

I would say that they have been worshiping false gods (mammon, their ego... who knows?) from the get-go and don't even realize it, and probably still don't.
I really don't believe that a true bondman would react in such a manner, because they know; "you don't always get what you want...", but for sure, you'll always get what you need (comfortable, or not). And therefor, would not be blaming anyone or anything.

Peace,
Mark

[Mark]

Originally Posted by PJT04

Suijuris is becoming a joke.

I think the reason that you believe that SuiJuris is becoming a joke, is because, for the most part you just don't fit in with the mind-set here at Sui Juris (I'm fairly new here, so please, correct me if I wrong); you don't believe that there is a supreme being that created all that is, you believe the theory of evolution is a scientific fact, and you expect people here to prove otherwise, when in fact no one can prove or disprove. The only thing you can do is look at the facts/evidence for yourself and believe what you will. And stop pooh-poohing (trying to discredit) what others have chosen to put their faith in.

Fact is, everyone has a religion, which is simply the Law one chooses to follow. For some it is the laws of a supreme being who created all that is; heaven and earth, for others it is the laws (color of) of the State (corporate) that created all that is fiction; the world. Seen the Matrix? If you choose to follow the laws of neither, than you’re considered lawless and dealt with accordingly. It’s your choice, and not always a simple or obvious one.

Peace,
Mark

[rottweiler]

Quote:
Originally Posted by PJT04
Why is it that people praise the gods when things go well and blame others when their "miracle" goes haywire?

Originally Posted by HenryBowman

It's called human nature. Why ask why?

Is there a point you want to make?

Henry Franklin

The idiots who told them their loved ones were alive deserve criticism and a whole lot more. Now the mine's insurance company can pay even more fiat in damages for this loss of life AND mental anguish they caused. In Milwaukee, WI were I live the families of the 1999 crane collapse at Miller Park just settled for big bucks. Each man's family collected at least $10 million and probably $20+ over Mitsubishi's goof. The Milwaukee Brewers got $20 million.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/jan06/383742.asp

Life is not fair sometimes, but believe me, good will triumph over evil eventually. Just because you can't figure something out does not mean there is not a good reason for the way things turn out. Maybe a whole lot of miners will be safer in the long run after a huge damage award. After all that's how you hurt these companies is by messing up the bottom line.

Don't try to figure out why, just do or die.

Originally Posted by Mark

I think the reason that you believe that SuiJuris is becoming a joke, is because, for the most part you just don't fit in with the mind-set here at Sui Juris (I'm fairly new here, so please, correct me if I wrong); you don't believe that there is a supreme being that created all that is, you believe the theory of evolution is a scientific fact, and you expect people here to prove otherwise, when in fact no one can prove or disprove. The only thing you can do is look at the facts/evidence for yourself and believe what you will. And stop pooh-poohing (trying to discredit) what others have chosen to put their faith in.

Fact is, everyone has a religion, which is simply the Law one chooses to follow. For some it is the laws of a supreme being who created all that is; heaven and earth, for others it is the laws (color of) of the State (corporate) that created all that is fiction; the world. Seen the Matrix? If you choose to follow the laws of neither, than you’re considered lawless and dealt with accordingly. It’s your choice, and not always a simple or obvious one.

Peace,
Mark

You could be right. I don't belong here with a bunch of fundamentalist christians. BTW, I always objected to the constant religious endoctrination thoughout this forum. As much as you want it to be, quoting from the bible doesn't help your legal cause. This gets many people in trouble.

Just in case you forgot, not everyone "believes" the way you do. Instead of attacking the person you ought to concentrate on the validity of the argument.

Wake up and take responsibility. Use your brain!! Stop hiding behind an old book.

Originally Posted by Mark

I think the reason that you believe that SuiJuris is becoming a joke, is because, for the most part you just don't fit in with the mind-set here at Sui Juris (I'm fairly new here, so please, correct me if I wrong); you don't believe that there is a supreme being that created all that is, you believe the theory of evolution is a scientific fact, and you expect people here to prove otherwise, when in fact no one can prove or disprove. The only thing you can do is look at the facts/evidence for yourself and believe what you will. And stop pooh-poohing (trying to discredit) what others have chosen to put their faith in.

Fact is, everyone has a religion, which is simply the Law one chooses to follow. For some it is the laws of a supreme being who created all that is; heaven and earth, for others it is the laws (color of) of the State (corporate) that created all that is fiction; the world. Seen the Matrix? If you choose to follow the laws of neither, than you’re considered lawless and dealt with accordingly. It’s your choice, and not always a simple or obvious one.

Peace,
Mark

You could be right. Maybe I don't belong here with a bunch of fundamentalist christians. BTW, I always objected to the constant religious endoctrination thoughout this forum. As much as you want it to be, quoting from the bible doesn't help your legal cause. This gets many people in trouble.

Just in case you forgot, not everyone "believes" the way you do. Instead of attacking the person you ought to concentrate on the validity of the argument.

Wake up and take responsibility. Use your brain!! Stop hiding behind an old book.

Originally Posted by PJT04

You could be right. I don't belong here with a bunch of fundamentalist christians. BTW, I always objected to the constant religious endoctrination thoughout this forum. As much as you want it to be, quoting from the bible doesn't help your legal cause. This gets many people in trouble.

Just in case you forgot, not everyone "believes" the way you do. Instead of attacking the person you ought to concentrate on the validity of the argument.

Wake up and take responsibility. Use your brain!! Stop hiding behind an old book.

There are lots of "old books." Are all of them worthless? Does believing something that is written in any of them (take your pick) mean that one is not using their brain?

Wouldn't your statement above actually mean that someone is not using their brain, and that they are hiding behind an old book, and that they are asleep and act without responsibility? (should they believe the Bible)

And you are saying that after this statement:

Instead of attacking the person you ought to concentrate on the validity of the argument.

Excuse me, but this shows very bad faith on your part. It appears that you are doing (attacking the person) what you are telling everyone else not to do.

Can you support the validity of what you say? Can you offer valid proof that someone who believes the bible or any other book for that matter, is "hiding" behind such belief?

Can you provide any valid proof that support that someone who believes the Bible (or any other book) is not using their brain?

C'mon PJT04. These are your words. Take your own bait.

Implying that everyone here is a fundamentalist christian serves what purpose?

If you are the victim here, I'd like to know. But my take on the words you have put down is that you are snared by those words.


Henry Franklin.

P.S. This thread isn't locked, because you are actually engaging here. If you can support your position (which I have derived from your questions) I am all for it.