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Old 07-03-2006, 08:08 PM
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My question remains also:

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1 John 5:12
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

Sharing Lights, do you agree that the key is to have the Son of God?

Do you believe and confess that the Messiah, the Christ has come in the flesh?



I'll wait.


I believe, your wait was not in vain.


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Sharing Lights, do you agree that the key is to have the Son of God?

I do not agree,
as the key is balance and completeness.

Therefore, I say this to you:
the Key is to have a Son and Daughter of God
or both: a masculine and feminine aspects of Nature.

Why do you put a man above a woman, masculine above feminine;
a plus above minus, a spirit above form?

Didn't you, also, come from a Mother or from two Fathers?



I say to you: they need each other,
equally, to become complete.


Evidence?

I not only repeat what others wrote when such is of substance
but, also, use my mind and examples from Nature.

As I know it takes a male and female to produce a child,
both are needed equally!

Are they not?



Amen.



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Do you believe and confess that the Messiah, the Christ has come in the flesh?


Would be answered in Part II
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Old 07-03-2006, 08:18 PM
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Do you believe and confess that the Messiah, the Christ has come in the flesh?

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Originally Posted by Sharing Lights
Would be answered in Part II

No, my question was not answered. I directed a question that would yeild a "yes" or "no" answer.

If you give anything but a "yes" or a "no" it will be taken as a no.

And, if it is a no, then, you are the spirit of the antichrist, according to 1 John 4:3

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

And that is my daily meditation for this thread.




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Old 07-03-2006, 08:29 PM
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Part II

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Do you believe and confess that the Messiah, the Christ has come in the flesh?

I do not confess - I share.

I do not feel that I am under an obligation to confess to you,
as I, also, posses a Sovereign mind
and not under your confessorate.


Christ in flesh?


No way, I believe in self-contradictions!


Flesh - means an attribute of a physical body:
of an animal or human being or of similar.


Christ is a Principle - not an individual.

A Principal is not of the flesh.

It is eternal.

Flesh is not eternal.

If you don't know, I would share.

Flesh has a tendency to rot
after certain period of time.

Christ the Principle, as the concept
is above any rotting.

Some people may take on the attributes of Christ
but they are not Christ,
as they are human beings who take on the attributes.



Many human beings can take on such attributes
and not one.

The man, called Jesus who is a historic fact,
became so enlightened in his growth that
he was able to manifest qualities of Christ.

As a man he was close to perfection since abandoned his Ego - lower nature
and
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followed the Higher Principles, no matter what,
even under the threat of death.

That is the Ultimate Sacrifice!
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They took his body but not his Soul.



He was not Christ.

He was Jesus of Nazareth, who after encompassed the Universal harmony,
so fully, that was referred to as "Christ."
After- not before.

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"Christ" is like "Light," in a way.

Light is Eternal and can be absorbed by any one who chooses to absorb it fully.

If nothing is blocked, the light would be absorbed.

Otherwise, it is absorbed in the degree it is not hindered.



A Principal - Christ was applied to the man called Jesus.
He was not the Principal,
as it can be applied to any one
who is willing and capable to manifest such Harmony
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You confuse the two
and wish other people
to confess to your confusion.

Not likely from those who know the difference.



When you repeat what others wrote without understanding that, try,
at least, to understand what others write, who understand.

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Discern, reflect, then make up your mind
instead of repeating what was not explained in its core.

I shared a good advice and a fair one, as I wish such was shared with me.
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Old 07-03-2006, 08:34 PM
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Old 07-03-2006, 08:42 PM
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No, my question was not answered. I directed a question that would yeild a "yes" or "no" answer.

If you give anything but a "yes" or a "no" it will be taken as a no.

Can you read or your mind only sees what you write?

I quote just for you one more time.

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SL: As I know it takes a male and female to produce a child,
both are needed equally!

Are they not?



Amen.


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Do you believe and confess that the Messiah, the Christ has come in the flesh?


SL: Would be answered in Part II

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If you do not believe me, look above.



Is this not a simple statement that I, clearly, wrote that I would answer in Part II?



And I did in Part II - not Part I as promised.



You force as an Inquisitor and use similar tactics,
falsely claiming that a person would
default because you chose to ignore the person’s statement.


To your knowledge, even in Courts, Motions
and Oppositions are answered
in certain time limit
and not in your forceful, instant default.


You self-imposed that fallacy.

I do not succumb to such.
I adhere to rules and fair conduct.


You may have more time on your hands,
than I do, so what?
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Old 07-03-2006, 09:09 PM
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Part III

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And every spirit that confessed not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

And that is my daily meditation for this thread.



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If you stated that I am not of God, then,
of course, in your Court, I become such.


I can live with it and sleep well too.

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My post stands as written, and I have nothing further to say about this post.

I do, though:

I must add, however, for accuracy
that, in reality, you could not, even, make
that statement in the true essence of the word,
as you could only copy someone else writing, I believe
without, possibly, understand what you copied.

When any one who does not subscribe to your
philosophy, mostly repeated,
is proclaimed as not of God (thus of Nature)...
what can I say to you?

Much, but why?


You know, to be polite,
I would rather default to make you happy,
as you can't, even, maintain a logical conversation
by such proclamations revealed.


You may have forgotten to write that
I would burn in hell for not agreeing with you.


I am glad that, in your case,
the heaven awaits you at least.

ps.

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by HenryBowman ....this is that spirit of Antichrist...


Good, at least, I was revealed and found.
I see no shadow of my self but only horns.

You read me so well.

I proclaim the hunt for the Antichrist is over as
you found me.


No wonder you wanted me to confess.....
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Old 07-03-2006, 09:27 PM
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I am warm, and bright
Every once in a while I have a flash of brilliance!
If I lose a little weight, I might become light(er)
I set my thoughts in right array
Every day!

Wait! I am the Sun

And from my lofty perch I see.
That some One created me, and by Him I do exist, and by Whose course I move.

You must be a mushroom, growing round and tall in the mire of the bull**** that is your environment.
And as you peer upwards toward the sight of what you wish to be,
My corona appears around your cap making you think to be a bearer of light.

Yet you are still in the dark.

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Old 07-03-2006, 09:37 PM
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Don't Come any Nearer

I am warm, and bright
Every once in a while I have a flash of brilliance!
If I lose a little weight, I might become light(er)
I set my thoughts in right array
Every day!

Wait! I am the Sun

If you say so

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And from my lofty perch I see.
That some One created me, and by Him I do exist, and by Whose course I move.

Congratulations! Whose course above?
You did state the environment below.


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You must be a mushroom, growing round and tall in the mire of the bull**** that is your environment.

Indeed,
Colonics may help you, then
.


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And as you peer upwards toward the sight of what you wish to be,
My corona appears around your cap making you think to be a bearer of light.

I am sure you are as already shone so much here,

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Yet you are still in the dark.

"Suns" Recours

(Sorry, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity)

Your sorry is accepted.
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Old 07-03-2006, 10:47 PM
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That created in the Image and Likeness of the sum total... within the sum total.

God is All.

All Spirit, uni-verse: Father,

All Matter, uni-verse: Mother,

And the Child of their Union: Hu[e]man[ifested] ~ The All within the One, and the One within the All... the many 'faces' of God. As you have done it to the least of them, so have you done it unto God, and your Self. So love them as I have Loved them.

What couldn't I 'see' when I look at any Child of God?

Can i see Your totality? Not with my eyes. They only sense a part of You.

Yet I know You as i know the Self.

When I look at My reflection in a mirror, I do not say "Look there, I AM!" but rather, "There is a reflection of I AM."

Be wholed God.

HeneryBowman,

Are you are follower of God, or John?

Do you believe that this was a quote, or John expressing an impression?

Was the impression, written down and then translated.... actualy what was precieved by John, or, simply and interpertation of an interpertation of an impression?
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a reply to the main concepts/ideas raised

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by Aksis: Here we have a perfect example of worshiping the "Morning Star".

This is your belief and it is respected.
Yet, would it not be more accurate to state it as such; otherwise many readers would be under the impression that such personal, belief is a perfect example of a perfect fact?

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SL: Examples and opinions are not facts!


I sense that you, sincerely believe in what write and the spirit behind that is well-meaning.

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SL: I put merit to the “spirit” of things and not their “letter.”

Therefore, I respond not only to you but to crucial concepts that were touched in the direction of the total format, as I perceive it.

I believe that your desire for accuracy may welcome my honesty and desire for learning and sharing.


Introduction:

I believe when one replies in a format that projects his/her beliefs, it is important to address that by precise logic, common, sense, and inherited ability for us, all, to be able to discern on our own.

Therefore, I have no right to say that you are wrong in the key aspects of the points raised, even though do not agree with what your wrote, which appeared to me as more of widely accepted religious concepts in letter – not in spirit, concerning the importance of the Sun-Humans relationship.

I would come to it in details as promised but must address something that may affect us all: how religious dogmas are presented as facts.

It is, also, crucial, to state that not all people subscribe to the prevailing, religious trends, as well as there is too much conflicts and variations of the same teachings.
The history proves that beyond any doubt.

There are, just in Christianity, alone, so many denominations and, even, among them, no same results are produced.
That is a fact.

Then, the question is, “how is that possible that all of them are right, when they do not agree with each other?”

Furthermore, had they agreed, there would have been one – common flow of them and not so many.

That combined weight of the fact of history and logical conclusion is indisputable.

Having established all of the above, I would continue further.

There are legions of people, who do not subscribe to the current, religious notions, regardless of the, particular source and/or name.

Are they ignorant, non-intelligent, insane, etc.?
Do those who subscribe to the popular dogmas are more credible?

The facts prove, beyond any doubt that many of the non-conformists and atheists are bright, highly, highly intelligent people, and many of them act decently without belonging to any, particular, religious trend.



to be continued
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