The Key is to establish the link between you and the Sun

[Sharing Lights]

Part II



I would continue further.

Many of these “atheists” act much more “godly” or morally and come to help quicker than many of the so-called men/women of God.

SL: Decency and good will do not depend on a label or how often one attends a house of worship.

A person may not attend a church, synagogue, Mosque, temple, etc, even once in his/her life and act more nobly that those who may attend those every day.

SL: Not labels, resume, but true acts in their core determine the merit.

I would like to remind many atheists and/or non-conformists to dogmas are, usually, provoked to not conform because their, reasonable sense of logic and ability to question things tells them that most of the popular religious concepts, the way they are presented, just defy laws of physics and common sense.

Before, some folks scream in protest I, respectfully, note that, there is nothing wrong in believing in any God and any religion, and in much of what is associated with those concepts as, generally, advocated to the societies.

On the contrary, if hypocrisy and fallacies were taken out of that, such belief would be most desirable to all in my opinion.

Yet, the reality remains that there are too many fallacies, absurd, concepts, with basic violations of common sense which are advocated and pushed covered with a label “- religion.”

Yes, it has been pushed down the throats of people for so long and so intensely that

millions of people were murdered, burned, and tortured so that the “messengers of God” could get their satisfaction, “they converted the infidels or sinners.”

Is that what God asked them to do?
Really?


There was a strange attempt to make me “confess” right here, at this Forum by the self-proclaimed Confession-extractor just because I “dared” to write what may not conform to the opinions of such people.

I believe most understood me very well and I do not have to venture into the age of the real Inquisition, Crusaders, and Nazis murdering innocent people in gas chambers, while the "defenders of God" were wearing crosses and were celebrating the Christmas.

There is no need to give too many examples as the point is made:

hiding under the veil of the religion does not alter the true acts and intentions of the “inquisitors.”

to be continued

[Sharing Lights]

Part III

Seven days of the Creating, flying Jerusalem, Holly Conception without a physical father, moving mountains, etc, very well may be taken by many religious subscribers literally.

They would quote and push, while, usually do not have clue what that symbolism represents in reality, as there is much of it in religion.

Not everything can be taken as literal facts in most religious writings unless the followers are willing to spread absurd misconceptions as facts.

Try to share that notion with the inquisitors; they would burn you on the cross if could for such heresy.


I assure you that there are considerable numbers of people, including me who do not believe in that for a second that, as only a union of sperm and egg can produce a child - a union of a physical egg and a spirit, not acting through the physical sperm can not produce even a feather.

I would address this matter in a later Post in precise details for all to discern on their own.


The theory of a Holly Conception as pushed down our trachea just does not make sense to many of us.

Yet, if the inquisitors used common sense, laws of physics, anatomy, and understanding of how knowledge was referred to in ancient scripts, they would have realized the deeper and real side of the concept.

SL: Why should we (those who share these views) repeat what doesn't make sense?

The following occurs then:

1) Some folks are repulsed by the prevailing hypocrisy and defying of common sense.
They say, “we do not wish to have anything to do with religion or their God(s)”

2) Some, to which I category, I belong, say, “Yes, there is the Higher and Absolute Intelligence; whether we call it God or Nature is irrelevant, as both are the same.

Hypocrisy and violations of physical laws have nothing to do with the, true and original teachings and knowledge.

Then, let’ research and

search until we find outside and inside

, in any combination as we may proceed, that which makes sense to us and which we do not have to take upon as blind beliefs but, which are based on laws of Nature and can make sense to us, thus,

becoming a part of us, as we are a part of the Nature

.

We are in it and it has to be in us.

If we separate the two, we are separated and not whole, indeed.

Please, inquisitors, do not confuse the “whole” and “holly.”

to be continued

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by Sharing Lights

Daily Meditation for this 2006-07-02.

The counterpart of the contemplation being Christianity brought by Henry Franklin. This reminds me of a Star Trek episode where Dr. McCoy suddenly realizes the people are not worshipping the Sun, but the Son of God.

Or better yet why when the federal officer persisted for me to give him my DOB I simply asked, "Are you an astrologer?" His jaw dropped a bit and I could see him working on it for a moment.

A Christian gave me an audiotape of a "Prophetess" at New Life, a huge megachurch on the NorthGate. This lady was encouraging people to go out at dawn (when the atmospheric filtering is best) and stare into the sun. Well! The Morning Star (Venus) would do the same for us - staring near the sun at dawn.

Anyway; back to the federal officer. I agree it is all about relationships and that would be indirectly tied into positioning and triangulation. Albeit our positioning would be more about time of conception I imagine since some women give birth a few weeks from nine exact months gestation. [The re-knitting of genome states where in the sequential perspective the new player began participation in the play.] The fellow I was with relented to the demands and gave that, conception inquired of his parents' best guess as to the exact sexual event. There were warrants on his legal name but they of course did not come up against him, even though the officers at the scene were convinced he was actually born on the date that did come up.

My mother told me not to stare into the sun... so when I was six years old I did...

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...mPentagram.jpg
http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images...ntagramsig.jpg

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...Pi-snippet.wmv



Regards,

David Merrill.

[Sharing Lights]

Part IV


Those who search truth and not only quote what, usually, do not understand, themselves, begin to search and meditate, think, and ask, read and write, following logic and common sense at the SAME TIME!.

Eventually, those who do so, arrive to a certain balance that, as there is Cause and Effect and definite intelligence in life, itself, and no chance can rule the Universe, life, and our existence.

We, realize that, as much confusion there is in the religion, per se, that, still, does not negate the concept of the Higher Intelligence ruling the Universe and/or the latter possessing the former.

Everything points out to that certain pattern, design, and evolution based on well defined and coherent Principles.

Once, we realize that and search further, we encounter that the Seven Days of the creation, in reality refer to the Seven Epoch or cycles of Universal Evolution, comprised of billions of years each – not one day each!

Inquisitors and confession-extractors

can quote the Seven Days all they want for eternity to come. They would, still, not change that Eternity and its laws.

The prevailing, astronomical evidence proves, with reasonable deviation of years as not all regioins are researched well, that the, known to us, Universe is, somewhere between 7-20 billions of years old.

Not less than 7 - not more than 20, so far.

Billions of years - not days, I note to you confession-extractors.


Even if its numbers are in great disparity, as they are,

the Earth, itself, is about between 4.5-4.8 billions of years old.

It takes abut nine month for humans to give birth to their offspring’s, so how could the whole world be created in just, Seven Days?

to be continued

[Sharing Lights]

Part V

The more we read those who know what write and search within and outside, the more we find out that the true teaching were secretive and canceled from a general public, as to prevent the abuse of the omni-powerful knowledge.

Look what many folks do with what is available to them.
Imagine giving them more power?

The men who passed on the knowledge and secrets used wisdom - not naivety, as well as it is true that much of that was mistranslated and, even, altered.

We, also, find out that the translations of the translations from the original and the selections made by those who were in control of such decisions were based on certain fallacies and agenda often done purposefully.

I can say that between 90-99% of all religious people, subscribing to a certain prevailing trend, do not have the original knowledge but the alteration of it to a great extend.

Unfortunately, many of these people would die and kill others to defend their views as facts.

Large portions and whole chapters of the original manuscripts were omitted altogether.
That is a fact.

Truth is only whole - not partial,

once again.

What I shared above is not news to many but only a way of putting it together, so to say.

It was absolutely necessary, in order to respond the issues raised as facts, while latter were opinions only.

I am sure that is done by great numbers of people every day.

In the next Post, I can, finally, get straight to the original issue of the Sun-Human relationship and why it is so crucial for Evolution of human being and all life in the Solar System.

I know exactly what I wrote and why.

The issue would not be distracted, even, when sometimes, other issues take over temporally, as they provide crucial discussions too, and I am glad they have been raised in this Forum's thread.

Those issues are valid and worth of discussions in details.


Those who think otherwise, can put their fears aside.
You have your freedom not to believe in that, as well as, not to seek interaction with the Sun, if you believe I am so ignorant, when equally quoted one of the wisest men I have ever came across: Omraam Michael Aivanhov and equally, began posting my understand of the subject.

I do it because I wish the true Sui Juries to empower themselves with the potent

knowledge that works and can help them to be able to withstand injustice and be unmoved by the slimy and dark ways

of many attorneys-judges.

The Sun would provide the powerful and performing means, as that has been tested not only on myself but, also, that has been done by men/women of great achievements.

I write only what I comprehend myself and never quote what can't explain on my own.
I wish all the same.

You can wake me up at any moment of the day or nigh and I would, still, explain what write, as the external knowledge has became my internal.

No one can repossess what belongs to you inside of you.

Before, you argue, I state again, I encompass both in my writings: the outside and inside and not what some of you advocated as "all the answers within."

I do not believe any of us are on that level.

Many of us prove it with every Post.
As soon as we pose questions and reply by the ways a bit off the line of quotes incorporated in some of your post, many are lost and only contradict themselves and logic.

Memorization and ability to quote do not equal the comprehension in its core.

If the Sun as one of the key aspects for growth and evolution bothers some of you, you are welcomed to dwell in shadows if that light is hindering your progress.
No one objects that.


As many of us, I, also, share knowledge with those who not only share theirs with others, (thus, we are in a common pull of benevolence and all the noble things arriving from such) but, also, with all, who, simply have an opened mind to try to understand something first and then, argue over it intelligently and not in the reverse order!

When time comes, many more folks would, gladly, share their abilities and knowledge with others and so on.


to be continued

[Sharing Lights]

Part VI

Initial points raised by the people posting here, accurately, preserved in quotes.

The greatest revelations about the universe and about ourselves come to us from the sun.

Though the sun provides a medaphor or something that is a source of light, the Light of the Soul is within you.

I never said it is not.

Furthermore, the light is the property of the Sun, as we are directly nourished by such and there would be no life without the Sunlight at all, at least for us.

Is it not true?

Your and mine life and of all depend on the Sun!
That is a Maxim!

That is why, if you truly want to
educate yourself, you must address yourself to the sun.

The Masters have long advocated humanity to look within, and to not get distracted by outer things.

It is improper to speak on behalf of all masters or anyone unless you have the facts.


Aivanhov is one of the Masters, and one of the most advanced ones, so why would you consider some and not the wisdom of this one who proved it to so many?

You do not have to, of course but, then, your logic is self-contradicting as

The Masters have long advocated humanity...

Impact of Aivanhov is beyond, being tremendous after people read his sharings of knowledge.

In Europe, he is of great magnitude.

I would share few key point on confusion revolving around what he taught and shared and what some advocate he did.

He can't answer to you, unless you read one of his about 50 books, already, published in most languages of the world (at least 32,) growing to the 72 volumes in total, once the compilations are competed for publishing.

So far not one person, who addressed him here, in ignorance, when such was exhibited, have read one of his books.

They form their opinions and argue by some limited means, including certain quotations I posted, which are only quotations in limited space and can preserve full and complete meaning only, once, all the relevant thoughts are quoted completely, which may defeat the true purpose of us, being here on the Forum: for all of us to use our mind and not only resort to quoting.
That is given.


Coming back to the Sun:

Why do you assume that the concept of the Sun, which is:

1) light,

2) warmth,

3) selfishness, as it shines and gives us life without asking anything in return,

4) all the best that there is –

is a distraction?

It may be a distraction to some, that is their choice, I agree.

They may feel more comfortable in the dark than at the sunlight, I have no quarrel with that either.

Yet, how is the sunlight of distraction in reality?

Do you know that the sunlight directly stimulates humans’

1) Pineal gland

2) Hypothalamus,

3) Solar plexus,

4) and other, vital centers of humans,
which are responsible for developing
the Higher Consciousness?

Have you studied that?

Do you know why the Solar Plexus is called the Solar precisely and not lunar or flashlight or batteries, as Solar is of the Sun?

I have practiced Solar interaction on myself to some degree.
Would it not make sense to read my side of the issue, then, if I have the first hand knowledge, so to say and share such?
I never force – I only share.
Would you not be more equipped to respond precisely, if you know precisely what I mean and write, if most was not written and read yet?

Would you be more comfortable answering Motions of attorneys in Courts before you read them or appeal Judge's decisions before they are entered on Record?

Are my suggestions based on certain coherence or are "bs" as one, "wizard or wise man" wrote with such pride as he could not piss or pass that opportunity?

I must correct myself that he did write "pass." (*)

SansRecours
Don't Come any Nearer


You must be a mushroom, growing round and tall in the mire of the bull**** that is your environment...

...

Yet you are still in the dark....

(*) (Sorry, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity)

Now, I realize why the wise man may have given us a warning in kindness

Don't Come any Nearer

bull**** that is your environment...

usually that does produce a foul smell and it is better not to come any nearer.

I can appreciate such, fair warning indeed.
Thank you, dear.



Did you ever notice that, in the Orient, they place an eye or lotus in the middle of the forehead in symbolism as well that has been done in most civilizations, addressing the concept of the Higher Self?

Do you know why?

to be continued

[Sharing Lights]

part VII

I would clarify the facts (not opinions - facts.)

Omraam Michael Aivanhov was born in Serbtzi, a small village of Macedonia and is of Bulgarian origin. He lived in France.

He traveled throughout the world and studied most advanced spiritual movements of all times, as well as those of the modern science.

He spent considerable time in the Orient.


Read yourself what the enlightened man wrote, before, jumping on him, falsely claiming that he was a racist or white Supremacist in cheap shoots attempted before by those who have no clue what he wrote and why?

SL: After is the opposite of the Before.
Find out, then claim - not claim, then find out!

I state

(not allege - STATE)

that he meant in references to any the brotherhood of white light
the following because all can read numerous references to that in his, own writings written by him and not interpreted for him by his adversaries who fear the awakening Aivanhov provided to all who care to awaken from the impulses of the lower Ego:

1) brotherhood as a term referring equally to males and females, the same way, "men" are referenced in literature but imply both genders equally.


He never, never put one woman below a man and I respect his fairness ultimately, the same way I refuse to advocate that men are better than women.

All have their roles and can not be equal via that, as they are different but they are equal in the importance of existence.

This is a law of Nature and Maxim and not only an opinion!



2) Aivanhov relied on science not less than on spirituality - that is why he is so unique.

He knew that all combined spectrum of light produce what appears as white light.

I guarantee you all that he knew optics well as I read so much of his references to science on the level that scientists can envy.

He simply meant that that all shades and spectrum of light are equally important and all must be represented as whole and complete.

All colors of light combined produce what appears as the white or almost colorless light.


Therefore, he didn't want to put red over blue or green over yellow.

He viewed them as the whole and original light or "white" in that respect.

The concept meant was and is: pure and all - the word actually used as translated into English is not the best choice in my opinion as can create the confusion.

The more accurate translation would have been "of pure light" not of "white light."
I use, just, a term light as that is simpler to me.


As he meant "pure and whole" any one who bashed this noble of unparalleled achievements in his impact on the modern spirituality appears as an ignorant person who is too lazy to find out the truth and advocates fallacy and malice on the wise man, who embraced equality - not supremacy!
I state so fully!



This episode, also reminds me of the Governmental propaganda perpetuated by the attorneys-Judges that

any movement in the USA for Sovereignty and preservation of basic, God/Nature given rights is proclaimed as racists, far right,

(what..., is far left better?)

supremacists, angry, white men

(What about the women who also believe in free mind and body?)

Who told these, attorneys-judges-politicians that only, so called, whites believe in freedom and liberty and true justice?
What about the others?

...
and use deceit to discredit any Awakening People.

they want you to be half-asleep, as, then, it is, so, easy to control you.

Yes, some of them may be racists or anything.
Some - not all and not majority.


I can sum up his teachings as I understood them:

Omraam Michael Aivanhov advocated
benevolence, equality, and progress
toward the Higher Self away from the lower one
but in Balance and Harmony - not in self-deprivation.

to be continued

[Sharing Lights]

Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov, French philosopher and teacher of Bulgarian origin (1900-1986), went to France in 1937.

One of the most striking aspects in the Master's books is the enormous variety of ways in which he presents the one central question of man and his growth in perfection.

Whatever the question under discussion it is invariably dealt with in terms of how man can better understand himself and conduct his life.

And if the word can have such a reach, it is that he was himself, during all his existence, the most living illustration of his Teaching.

Other more detailed biographies are available in the following books:

OMRAAM MIKHAEL AIVANHOV A BIOGRAPHY, by Louise-Marie Frenette, Editions Suryoma
LA VIE D'UN MAITRE EN OCCIDENT
Editions Robert Lachance
Préface de "la deuxième naissance", (french) collection Complete Works, volume 1, Editions Prosveta





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Small biography of Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov

1900 - Mikhael Ivanov was born in Serbtzi, a small village of Macedonia. He was a precocious child and early on became fascinated with spiritual matters.

1907 - The village Szerbtzi was been setted on fire by Greeks nationalists; the family moves to Varna, a town of Bulgaria lying near the Black Sea.

1916 - First spiritual experience which shall be the beginning of his spiritual studies during the twenty next years. At this time, he was plunged into a state of ecstasy in which he experienced everything bathed in, and suffused with, light; an experience that left a lasting mark on his understanding of the nature of existence.

1917 - In Varna, he meets the Master Peter Deunov (1864-1944) who has grounded the school of the White Brotherhood in Bulgaria, has composed the songs relative to this school and the paneurythmy, and has given the basical methods and exercises.

By the side of his spiritual activities, after having accomplished his studies in the university in Sofia (1923-1931), Mikhael Ivanov becomes teacher, then director in a high school (1932-1935).

1937 - He settles in France, mandated by Peter Deunov to spread there the teaching of the Universal White Brotherhood and to save it from the communism. During approximately 50 years, he is teaching, giving thousands of conferences through the world (from which the first ones have been stenographied).

1938 - First conferences in Paris, and in Lyon.

1944 - Master Peter Deunov died.


Peter Deunov
(Beinsa Douno)
(1864 - 1944)
Grounder of the school of the White Brotherhood in Bulgary

Radio Bulgaria: Peter Deunov's philosophy, popular around the world


1945 - First conference given in Switzerland, in Lausanne.

1953 - First summer-congress in the centre Le Bonfin near to Fréjus.

1959 - He travels in India, where he visits numerous ashrams and meets several spiritual leaders. He was welcomed by several renowned Hindu Sages as an accomplished Master from Europe. One of them, Maharaja Nimcaroli Babaji, gives him the name: Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov. From his return, in 1960, his improvised conferences are stored on magnetic tapes.

1971 - The Prosveta Publishings are grounded in Switzerland. Little by little, they publish the teaching of the numerous conferences. The books are little by little translated in numerous languages (beginning of translation of 77 volumes besides 32 languages). The collection "complete works" has been entierely supervised by Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov.

1979 - The improvised conferences are now also stored on video cassettes.

1986 - Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov travels in the invisible world.

2000 - The school and the teaching of the Universal White Brotherhood are 100 years old.

SL: For preservation of the true spirit of the concept,
I clarify that


2000 - The school and the teaching of the Universal Brotherhood and Sisterhood of Light are 100 years old.

to be continued

I was delighted with the spiritual warmth and openness expressed by Sharing Lights, and I found myself appreciating the quotes he posted from Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov, so I googled Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov, and found the following webpage very helpful and informative:

http://www.prosveta.ch/oma_bio3_gb.html

In particular the photograph of this man as a young man without his white beard (about halfway down the page) was captivating. His facial expression just radiates intelligence and warmth - "light" in those eyes.

The Great White Brotherhood does refer to LIGHT - all colors of light combining together to make WHITE LIGHT. Nothing to do with race whatsoever.

Earlier in this thread, Sharing Lights alluded to many people becoming disillusioned by organized religion because so much of the religious dogma just contradicts common sense. I certainly fall into that group.

The Bible is a book - one of a number of books - written by human beings in the service of their particular religion. As such it is a collection of human thoughts, historical memories, and beliefs. The fact that human beings have killed in the service of their various religions is a tragedy spanning thousands of years of human history.

I attend a "new thought" fellowship - Science of Mind - that is dedicated to the same spiritual concepts that I see Sharing Lights speaking of. We do not focus on the sun per se... but we do focus on concepts of light - spiritual illumination - and the belief that we are interconnected with every aspect of nature and of the universe because it is all a manifestation of the divine intelligence with which everything is embued.

We also focus on the spiritual law of cause and effect. I see that principle in what Sharing Lights has written also.

As many of you are aware, I have said before on this very forum that I believe organized religion has been responsible for a great deal of tragic, immoral and brutal treatment of other human beings who have been labeled "infidels". History is awash in the bloodshed perpetrated by religious warfare as both sides of the conflict tell themselves that "God is on our side".

Bearing that in mind, I hope that most people here on suijuris, regardless of their various religious, agnostic, or athiestic beliefs, can learn to respect other people's spiritual paths.

Shalom, namaste.

[Sharing Lights]

Dear Heidi!


You were insulted earlier by some folks because you are able to use wisdom and look beyond simple things and have patience and understand that we need to discover something before we comment on that as if we state facts.


Your Posts are of great value to those who search light and a threat to hose who search darkness.

Demonitrixes, dominatrix-es, etc, who cares?
I am not being religious here at all.

I apologize, the correct spelling above should be "those" not "hose."



Of course, such wisdom is threatening to some and they use what they can use.

Just be yourself as you already have so much.

True Religion is beautiful - dogmas are dangerous.

In few days, I post the exact details on the Sun-humans thread and, then, all, can discern what was meant and written.

For now, that is only began to be written and that's a fact as I testify to it!